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You can call me Marc, people call me Armake. I work in NewYork for the NYPD as a PAA. I just want to let Bill know that you can find me on You-tube under Boxed Entertainment 21.

I have a huge following in the gaming community and am considered one of the best VG reviewers about, I am here because as you saw you managed to do dumbass thing by pissing off Kinsue and even though we have our differences, I will state on record that I went out with Heather Anderson for a three weeks, but the long distance thing screwed it up, she had issues and yeah she stayed with Ben and his wife for a good while. Now I am not into aliens and conspiracy **** but she was ****ing convincing, so you better do some real detective work before you dis a guy. and if Ben wont give you her name I will it was Joanie Anders she was a MD, I saw Bens post and thought **** it, give you score on whats what.

http://www.youtube.com/user/boxedent...1?blend=1&ob=4

go to page 152 on my comments you'll see ReaperT2000 one of Joanie's alias names. I still called her heather for her finger quote security. and yeah she was pregnant and no I,m not ****ing talking to you about that.

for a real picture of Joanie look here, I'm done! Now do what you should have from the giddy up! But here's a tip our detectives use get to know a guy before you judge him. I'll keep anonymous off your back, for now.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HeatherjjAnderson989

Marco

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hi Bill!

I was very impressed with your Icke interview and you seem to have a good instinct for picking up the Ickeisms..:original:

Tell me how did his energy field feel to you?

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hey Bill.

My question is this;

I noticed initially your response to the Noway Lights on P.C. was along the lines of 'sorry guys, but it really is just a mis-fired russian missle' then a time later, without any correction to your first response, as say, a newspaper would do, (forgive me if there was a correction noted, i could not find any) you replaced it with the photos and David Wilcock article instead.

My question is, if you can jump from one point of view or opinion and present it on your site to everyone on the web as 'truth' and then jump to a completely contradictory position without any explanation, equally claiming that as truth, how is your version of the truth to be trusted over any other source that purports to have some notion of what said truth may be, regarding anything?

Regardless,

Much Respect to you ~*

P.E.A.C.E.

Re: Message TO MARCO & THE CAMELOT WAY
 

LETTER TO Marco and the WAY of Camelot,

Marco: Please feel free to contact me anytime. My skype name is 'snowjaguar'.

I do not share Bill Ryan's point of view on the Heather material or with regard to Ben. I am disappointed and astonished that Bill would publicly post regarding someone who has come to us as a whistle blower regardless of his view of the material. This is not how Camelot operates. It is not our mission.

We are not the judge and jury or the grand inquisitor... Although we vet our witnesses to whatever degree possible, considering the depth of the subject matter and the seriousness (by the way), what is MOST IMPORTANT is that the information gets out to the public so that they may decide what resonates and what does not. Getting the truth out in whatever form we find it is our mission.

As we move into 4th Density or the wave, determining what is true and what is not will become more and more difficult. If you are not already aware, records, badges and degrees can be falsified by the secret gov in whatever way they wish... Relying on old science and consensus reality will not reveal the true nature of what it means to be human. It never has and never will. This is only more true as we move out of this level.

We create our reality more and more as we own the fact of our ability to create. As creators reality becomes more and more malleable. Keep this in mind. You decide what you want to believe and what it is you know. The act of KNOWING is a psychic act. If you wish to know you must use more senses than the standard six. This much is obvious. You must go beyond the confines of what you have been told are your limits. The truth is, you have no limits. Our potential is unlimited. This is the greatest secret.

The Heather material rings true for me. However, this does not mean that all of it is accurate nor does it mean that everything Ben says is true. It means that I am listening and I will continue to listen. This is what matters.

Most of all, I listen to the heart. I wish to know first and foremost what the person's heart is saying to me. The rest may fluctuate. In Ben's case I listen to his heart.

Every whistleblower we have has spoken truths and untruths. In some cases they know they are lying (when they do so). In most cases they believe what they are telling us. This is the nature of what it means to be a whistleblower in THE MATRIX.... Nothing will contain all truth. Everything is subject to the laws of the matrix. To being bent and misconstrued by the nature of how we view 'through a glass darkly".... What is most true is that our perceptions are widening and deepening. We are learning more and more of what this reality is really made of... of the deceptions we have been party to... We have both been the deceiver and the deceived. Keep this in mind when listening to anyone let alone a whistleblower.

Whistleblowers are often complex, at one point or another mind controlled and manipulated. Is it so strange that their stories may contain inconsistencies? Not at all. But I digress. The bottom line here is that Whistleblowers who come to us to share their stories do so in trust that we will only release what they ask us to release. And that is an act of trust.

Camelot is in the midst of a site reorganization. Whereas, Bill Ryan and myself agree on many things, we do not see eye to eye on the above and other matters. In the coming days we will be revising our site to allow for us each to speak our minds in two blogs (instead of one) and two separate areas where we will continue to operate Camelot both together and apart. We will continue to work together but will also be investigating areas of our own special interests which in some cases the other person may not share. I have a great deal of love and respect for Bill Ryan. As we have grown over the years sharing the Camelot journey has often been a real adventure. Our differences have worked to maintain our balanced approach to this massively complex arena we are all a part of... It has now become necessary to expand our site to allow for the growing difference in our approach and views.

Please be patient with us as we redesign the larger site to allow for this to take place.

In the meantime, whistle blowers should contact us separately at either, bill@projectcamelot.org or kerry@projectcamelot.org in order to maintain the integrity of our work.

Blessings to all and above all and I encourage you to listen to the wisdom in your hearts,

Kerry

Re: Message TO MARCO & THE CAMELOT WAY
 

full heather pdf attached let the world decide...

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Thank Kerry for your open arms to hearing the Truth regarding this entire scenario and your decision to allow him back on the forum.

I do not blame Bill or anyone for that matter on how all this went down, it is getting increasingly difficult to weed out Truth from falsehoods and we, the human race, are doing our very best as we are navigating different frequencies and dimensions sometimes moment to moment during this shift.

I had likened this story to the blind men and the elephant each one 'seeing' a different part of the elephant and convinced the part they were feeling was the reality of the animal....well I must have gotten the ass end because that is precisely what I am feeling like right now!

My apologies to Ben for not believing his story, and to his loyal friends who have frequented Avalon on his behalf. :trumpet:

Also to Carol and mntruthseeker for their unwitting belief in Ben.:wub2:

Truth

Re: Message TO MARCO & THE CAMELOT WAY
 

In light of this new information I need to review this case again and I withdraw any conclusions I have previously made regarding this subject in light of this new previously unknown information (unknown to me) that Kerry has presented.

I can understand why this issue has been raised to question though, but this will be worth looking further into with a non prejudged view.

Thanks Kerry

Re: Message TO MARCO & THE CAMELOT WAY
 

Hi Kerry, thanks for your open letter about that subject. I was going to ask what the “Heather material” is all about, but I see you have already posted a pdf with further info about it, so, thanks again.

Also, could somebody please explain who “Ben” and “Marco” are? Thanks.

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Kerry,
You are beautiful and thank you for opening your heart

I am glad I came in tonight and seen what you have written. I know I am not any big fan but the reason I got so angry is something inside of me told me that Kin's story was true. I was told to come and read your words.

I have a major problem with people making rash judgements and in the field that I did for a living it was one I seen alot of .

Thank you for putting the story out here.

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The magenta text is a direct threat.
Not unusual coming from a bully with a badge, but should should this be allowed on the forum?

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I am coming in late to this giant drama, but I went to Marco's channel as he suggested and started at page 150 to about 155 to see her posts.

Heather posted the below...among other many heated comments to Marco.

I am not pleased with how Bill is handling this issue.
His last post allowing the "mods" to decide is insulting to Kerry and to us.
We, the public are not children and can make up our own minds once we see ALL the evidence.
Just my 2 cents.

One of her posts:

I have not problem with my belief system, and I do admit openly to my Alien experiences,
you should really speak to Ben who do you think woke me up to begin with and showed me the way.

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Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

On behalf of the Avalon moderators I am posting this reply to our beloved founders and membership.
We have removed the ban on kinsuemie2 for the moment. This is not a response to Kerrys request
but a decision made by us as the first move towards uncovering the truth of this matter and setting it right.

We are reviewing the evidence that has been presented to us and will decide on the matter in the very near future.

We act only with the best interest of Avalon and its members.
In the meantime this and any other related threads will remain closed.

Thank you for your understanding

The Project Avalon Moderating Team




-- This Thread is Reopened --

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

The moderators have declined to become involved at this level. I posted, with permission, the letters I received from Ben, so that his side could be heard by the forum members. Kinsuemei2 has asked for his membership to be removed as he no longer wants to be involved in this. Bill Ryan has issued an apology to Ben, and given a little more information at http://projectcamelot.org

http://projectcamelot.org/

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hello Bill!


I just wanted to say thank you for the last video you posted. You really should do more of this kind of thing! Its really a talent that i feel project camelot has overlooked, you being in the forefront more often. You've an amazing knowledge base as well as a fantastic intelect and always seem to ask people the same questions that i would ask them myself.

So more from you please if you have time! If i have to fund you i'll do it!

Anglo-Saxon Mission
 

The presentation you did was absolutely stellar. This will ring around the world in ways that are unfathomable right now. Do some more vloging that is where the power lies. Their shields are buckling now lets hit them with everything we have got.

Your friend
Dominic

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Dear Bill - I just wanted to underscore supportive comments of others in your approach to matters in general. You have assembled a very impressive wall of interviews through being careful and it is now more essential than ever that you continue with this strategy. All is at risk if you don't.

The business of attracting high quality whistleblowers must involve a certain degree of prior respect from them towards Camelot. In the early days, you had to earn this by repetitive measured approaches designed to build confidence before you could come close to agreeing a published interview. Now, things are a little easier in that regard probably a lot easier. I can well imagine that the flow of approaches from whistleblowers has increased a lot over the last 18 months. If so, this would explain a lot of the evident current tension between your and Kerry's judgement about what to do next. On the one hand, so many interviewing possibilities and on the other a reputation which could be trashed by as little as two bad interviews in sequence. On the one hand, the motive to "get the truth out there" as quickly as possible and on the other, a recognition that harmful forces may badly embarass you if you let down your guard.

I have to say that when I read the "Heather" document published on the Camelot site recently, I smelt a rat within a few paragraphs confirmed by a reading of the whole document. The essence of the account may be truthful but there is definately something wrong with its provenance.

Despite the problems, it is hugely evident that you and Kerry want the same thing - to play as active a part as possible to bring about important changes to the future of life on earth.

Kerry's energy and drive for the subject matter is to be admired. Your more careful assesments of whether or not to publish are essential.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I too stand behind you Bill, and given the potential for confusion over the past days, I feel the need to state that in this thread.

The comments made by Ixopoborn are succinctly accurate, and I would underline that the need to maintain your own integrity and that of PC is paramount.

I would add that your personal safety and attacks on your reputation are real and growing areas of concern. You will be well aware of the tactics that TPTB can and do employ - a line of thought I was sadly reminded of while listening to David Icke being interviewed by Alex Jones on his latest talk show http://tinyurl.com/yc6b6hw

I also want to say that your own latest interview on the Anglo-Saxon Mission is superb. Thank you. I would expect much interesting fallout and commentary to be the result!

I also am well aware that this thread is specifically meant for questions to you, but I know you have quite a backlog to respond to, so I don't wish to add to your task right now.

Take care Bill ... and of course, you too Kerry :original:

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

First of all...
I've got to say that i've read the introduction you gave to the "anglo-saxan mission" material recently. It's all very interesting, but I'm not going to read the interview itself, because I refuse to accept it into my reality- I refuse to give it any further mental powoer at all... I believe David Wilcocks' description of "fear-porn" is more than apt in this regard. We don't need to fear or stop anything bad from happening. We ned to steer events in the right direction. We need to apply gentle force to change the direction of events. Negative energy is negative energy, even if it is attempted to be used for good.

This will not happen because it will not be ALLOWED to happen. There are 4 billion (approx) people on this planet for a reason! The killing of 2 billion (or more) -SOULS- would be a disaster on a truly intergalactic scale. It would quite possibly eclipse the loss of life that occurred during the time of Atlantis and Lemuria.

On another note, I just finished reading "childhood's end"... And I can't help but wonder if Arthur C Clarke did any time-travelling himself? Because I can't help but think that the times he is writing about in that book are *OUR CURRENT TIMES THAT WE ARE IN NOW*.... It hit me when he mentioned in the fisrt pages that there was "dance music blaring". Dance music didn't exist in 1953 :-) It does now... In fact, he does a fairly good job of describing our current society as it is tody in 2010. There is a part of me that doesn't believe that the book is *JUST* a work of fiction. After reading it all the way through, I think there may be more in it than that...

What are your views on the book?

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Dear Friends,

Thanks for your very generous words. These are interesting times.

Since the startling and sudden removal of the ANGLO-SAXON MISSION video I've been sitting firmly on my hands, following my own advice to the Chinese military commanders not to be provoked into initiating WW III. The heavy irony is that there are some exact parallels here.

The video had received 25,000 YouTube hits (and 400 comments, almost all of them positive, intelligent and interesting) in 36 hours before it was taken down. I heard that the video has already been copied to DVD and handed to one US Congressman, a good man who will watch it carefully.

The translation team of 150 people (17 languages) are working on subtitles right now. They just need to be hosted somewhere where they will not be deleted.

Meanwhile, the original video is available as a torrent here:

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/Pr...on.mp4.torrent

...and can be streamed in full here (a Chinese site - a really delicious irony):

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTUzMDMzOTI4.html

Also meanwhile, John Lennon's IMAGINE is here on YouTube, with 6 million hits since May 2006.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw

Clearly no copyright issues there.

The video was not deleted with my knowledge or consent.

Best wishes to all - Bill

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Hi Bill.....have you tried putting the video up without the music?

You could put the link to the Imagine video at the end and ask people
to go and listen to it...


It's chilling that the video was removed because it gives credence
to the material you presented.


If we are in for major earth/geological changes ...the last thing the
human race wants or needs is the orgy of evil and suffering that
war brings....

We don't want that anytime...but especially not now.


Patriarchal, tribal, military groups might like to consider 'changing their
spots'....for all of our sakes, including their own...


Cheers mate....

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

The link to the video in projectcamelot is more akin to Chinese in My dyslexic eyes?????

The Terrorists( governance by intimidation) think themselves above and superior to We the people, they are not.
We the people need to govern ourselves, and will do.
Brilliant thoughts and conclusions, thank you.
Hobbit

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I have a question for Bill concerning the Galactic Federation of Light.

I have listened to many videos on you tube concerning channeled material from the GFL with names such as SaluSa. The message is of love, light, uplifting and encouraging. The messages speak of the demise of the TPTB and their ability to protect us and prevent nuclear holocaust.

Is this a Scientology presentation, a hoax.....
I know certain people supposedly channeled this information.

Bill, what do you know of this information, this group and the possibility of truth in their message? Hoping to hear your opinion.

Also, do you know of Christine Day and her book The Pleiadian Initiation of Light?

Thank you, Susan

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

The Video is still on Youtube split up into 6 parts.
Its also in 6 parts on DiscloseTV.

Isn't Viral Video a wonderful thing :p

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Bill,

I finally found the time to watch the presentation and I am very impressed. This video will probably grab the attention of a few people that sorely need it grabbed!

I was significantly moved by the upbeat and positive conclusions you draw toward the end of the presentation - excellent job.

This really is down to us.

A..

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

[B]bill,

might it be that kerry removed the video from playing through her youtube channel as she wants a separation of your/her domains? hard to believe, but possible....heather affair may have done more damage than we thought..
best wishes l[ :nono:/B]




Dear Bill
Please ignore my earlier question (above)..it was neither fair nor thoughtful of me..apologies.
best wishes l.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Excellent, Bill!
Clear, fluid, trustworthy, inspiring and with a good hope on top of it all.

Thanks!

/M

ps. I downloaded the mp4-video: http://projectcamelot.org/anglo_saxon_mission.mp4
It played well with VLAN Videoplayer for instance. Ds.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I'm pretty sure Kerry had nothing to do with the removal of Bill's video. It's a You-Tube thing. It happened to me when I tried to post a personal slideshow with a Bobby Darin track in the background. After uploading my slideshow, it was "deleted" because of the copyrighted music.

I suspect YouTube has some system in-place that scans new videos for copyrighted music. Obviously this is something fairly recent and that is why you can find OLD videos with copyrighted music.

I know you can find NEW videos with copyrighted music as well, but I suspect that this is because the "dection system" isn't perfect and also, there's a type of "waiver" document you can fill-out stating that you're not profiting from the music and, in most cases, YouTube will re-post the video. I myself did this and got my slideshow back online. :original:

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hi Bill,

I found your recent video & interview re: the Anglo-Saxon Mission very interesting. There is more that could be said about this ...

In case you are still answering questions on this thread, here are a couple I posted last month:

Question about White Hats - Jan 13, 2010

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=628

About Haiti earthquake - Jan 21, 2010

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=644

Thank you and very best wishes!

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I would be very grateful if Bill would read the thread "Dr. Steven Greer--Disinfo Agent?"
I am one of many, I think, on this forum who would like to see some healing, resolution, reconciliation and better understanding between Greer and PC. There is also a question as to whether the porno page Greer allegedly published of himself was actually a psyops smear, and since Bill passed along the rumor that it was true, I think it would be a good thing if Bill could check his resources on that, since if that story gets further circulation, it could be potentially damaging to Greer's work, and also to PC for possibly spreading false rumors. A few forum members have indicated direct knowledge that the story was a hoax, and I think that is also worthy of further research.
The disastrous PC/Greer interview is obviously a thing of the past, but it really caused some serious shock waves in the Disclosure Movement, and it would certainly be great for everyone involved if there could be some healing of that fissure.
Who or what was to blame for that unfortunate interview is not the issue, but clarity and the establishment of more good will within the Disclosure Movement, is very important, (particularly for PC and Disclosure Project, Orion Project, and CSETI)
Relevant details are discussed at length in the thread mentioned, and reading it would hopefully help to focus on what could be done to accomplish the desired end.
Thanks and good luck!

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I'll second that.


Project Camelot comes in for some heavy criticism and attack...'out there'
but IMO Steven Greer is the number one target for ridicule and attack.


No-one wants to get bogged down with the 'politics' of all this...but I
think that the disagreement between Bill + Kerry and Greer...has given
an opening for Greer to be treated with un-called for disrespect on this forum.

Which is not a good thing for the disclosure movement.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hi Bill
You mentioned on the website that you might be interviewing Ashayana Deane (from Azurite Press) and actually posted some of her material on the site. Can you give an update on that?
I have been studying her material for about three years now, having been into the New Age Movement for the last twenty years. I can honestly say that nothing compares with her material, the detail when it comes to the history of what has happened on the planet and why we are in the current predicament as well as the solutions, which is the most important thing. She would be able to give you and Kerry much more background to what other interviewees have only been able to touch on.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I would please like to know why Drunvalo Melchizedek has not been interviewed? I really don't know what the politics of all of this is but
I believe that if the indiginous peoples of the Americas trust him, then Drunvalo is worth trusting as a source of truthful information. I feel that one has to have an understanding of the types of "experiences" these people have in order to base whether they are trustworthy or not. Steven Greer for instance has had REAL cosmic conscious experiences. Drunvalo Melchizedek also has exceptional experiences. As they say: "There is a difference between talking about the moon and going to the moon."

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Hi,

I can say pretty much 100% sure that Kerry has nothing to do with the removal of the video. I talked to her the day (or day after) it was uploaded and we discussed briefly the good work Bill put into it.

And also, if I may say so. In my perspective as the one working on and managing the site updates, there is no "separation of domains" kind of confilct involved in my view. It is simply a re-arrangement for them both to be able to have their own focus areas while working under a shared "flag". Practical reasons you might say. The end result will hopefully be a camelot with more information flowing trough it, and more interactivity within the sites them self.
(not speaking on behalf of avalon, that is not within my working area)

PS: The plans for the new sites\renewal was in motion before any of this Heather stuff played out.

I hope this can cool of some worries :)

EDIT: I stand corrected, it was removed due to the music.

All the best,

Tommy

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Sure :) Actually looking forward to see Bill's response to this as well.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Bill, You've often spoke Of Astrally going to extra dimensional entities and talking to them. Do you believe it's possible through the dream plane? I'm a lucid dreamer and I have mutual dreams with other people every night. together we have had many experiences that Are as real to us as meeting and interacting in waking life. Together we've met ancient Entities that serve as spiritual guides in the dream realm. I can't tell you enough how fascinating this is. What do you think about the Idea of Shared dreams: The ability to meet with other people on the dream plane? is it a skill every human has? and if so, What are the implications for the human species?

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

Today the headline on the MSN.com web page read "What if Israel Bombed Iran?".

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

You will find more on this "shared dreaming" in the book "Being -in-dreaming" by Florinda Donner (Harper Collins Publishers, New York, 1991 )
The same book does also exist in Dutch: " De gedroomde werkelijkheid " Florinda Donner (uitgeverij Karnak, Amsterdam Nederland, 2000)

Quit a fascinating subject, but personaly I hardely ever remember dreams.

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 

I have a sense that Bill will not be answering questions on this thread. With the possible exception of this one.