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Yes i have seen what you mean Celine....

But your thoughts are our thoughts Celine... that is the point...

Deep down MP2 knows you love him... He just saying he doesn't need a reminder...

by getting upset with you Celine... he has expressed his frustration with the fact that so many who say they have love for all...

but their love falls short of darkness....for misunderstandings are all too common in verbal communication... think about it... Do animals talk...

if they did... do you think they would talk about how they sometimes like to lick themselves.. or do any of the other ridiculous things my dog does..:nono:

But when a dog meets a dog... even if they look different.. they still acknowledge one another as.. being in the same boat...so to speak

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A balancing statement Jonah..

i would be..surprised to see if others from "that point of view" agreed with you.


i am what i am i cannot be any different..i guess i should apply that to others to..

i am sad.

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good point jonah, and very well put :thumb_yello:

love m x

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Dearest Celine,

You are not what you think you are....

And what you think .. takes you away from what you are..

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Kind words...

but havent you heard...i dont think..i only feel?

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I know this is not going to make me popular but, it is not about evil, it is about unruly behaviour which is not acceptable. If we are to succed in having comunities that work we have to first be able to foster self-respect and mutual respect

Not having boundaries and letting the ones that are the most forceful get away with it helps no one, they don't get it and we get victimized then we have a war


SELF-CONTAINMENT: Taking personal responsibility for, and realizing that at all times, you are accountable for DIRECTING PERSONAL ENERGIES. There is no one or no thing that "upsets you" and thus justifies or validates ANY personal spiritual misuse of reaction, idea, intention or action. It is YOU who "upsets yourself" by allowing the emotional body to follow misperceptions of the mental body that tell you that your power lies outside of yourself. At any given moment, you can CHOOSE which words, associations and ideas you will use as the filters through which you interpret an event. "UPSET," "MAD," HURT" or any other category of labeling (conscious or subconscious) are all MENTAL BODY FILTERS that direct emotional and physical body function. The self contained individual recognizes that at all times, the freedom of interpretation exists, and thus a "negative" experience and its associated dis-harmonic energies of "upset" feelings can only exist as a personal interpretation of events. Accepting any less responsibility for the direction of personal energies will place you directly into the Victim-Victimizer "Blame Game," which can only take place among people who are placing their personal power and responsibility for manifestation onto externalized sources. Only you have the power to "upset yourself." Regardless of what others say or do, you are fully entitled to your own interpretation. No one or thing has the power to upset you unless you give this power away. Self containment comes when one recognizes that the direction of personal energies, whether physical, emotional, mental (ideas, beliefs, labels, interpretations), conscious or subconscious is an attainable level of personal mastery and exists as an implied responsibility that comes with the gift of free will choice. The more responsible you become, the greater freedom and personal empowerment you will know.
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SELF-DISCIPLINE: Accepting responsibility for directing personal energies toward, rather than in opposition to, the outcomes you desire to experience. The physical, mental and emotional bodies have long been directed by the subconscious forces of the hidden "shadow," creating within us urges, reactions, thoughts, impulses, perceptions and feelings that often work counter to the life creations we desire to manifest. Part of spiritual mastery entails teaching ourselves to be consciously diligent in observing our own minds, emotions and physical body-talk, so that we may employ conscious redirection of subconscious shadow energies that run on "auto-pilot." If we learn to "catch ourselves" when "negative" thought patterns or emotions run through us, we can use that moment of recognition to reclaim this errant energy and consciously use the power of affirmative attitude, remedial word choice and direct energy re-direction to direct opposing energies of the Self into fulfillment of desired constructive, spiritually mature creations. It takes self discipline to become the "Lion Tamer" of the often roaring subconscious mind, but we do have the intrinsic power to help our subconscious shadow to evolve through loving but firm redirection, into a "cuddly lap cat" that will gladly join us in our constructive co-creations. Self-discipline emerges when we consistently remind ourselves to employ the "Spiritually Correct" thought, action or attitude, even if we don't "feel like it" when the shadow sneaks up from "down under." The shadow parts of Self surface so that we may see these parts of Self come to the conscious mind for healing. Through this process, the conscious mind itself can learn greater attributes of mastery.

This is from the 12 responsibilities of mastery, copyright Ashayana Deane

I personally found this ones very liberating and I believe they can resolve any conflict if applied by all parties involved

There is always a higher solution if people is willing but is there will?

Love to all

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Answer for you and Agape is next;
As things look so far, NO.

Why?

First of all, let me tell you a little something.

In all his wisdom Creator has created. We for sure do not know what and when. We see just particles of creation.
But when a race of beings come with a desire to rule over human kind, how do you call that?

Invasion.

They came who knows when in the past ,with will to dominate all life forms here. Some were eating us some were satisfying with us being mere slaves.
But the real enemy is not some creature of reptilian background.
It is the ones who stands behind them.
Very beings that are here from the dawn of time.

Beings that once were of light and love.
They chose to think that they are smarter than Creator. They openly rebelled and declared that THEY are in knowing what is good and what is bad.

Creator allowed their claim to be put on test.

They failed.

But their pride became huge as some galaxies are huge.
Their light became darkness and their love -hatred.
Since they are spirits they moved from original place and sprang all over universe with terrible desire to rule,govern,impose things.
They devoured many places in universe that we are not even aware of.

Since they are not physical they were and still are wreaking havoc across the vastness of the universe. They can enter in physical body and control it. Poor creature would not know what is happening.

As time was passing by and they being away of light of Creator their minds grew evil completely. Many chose forms of serpent kind and remained still in that form. Having vast power they arranged various experiments and now you have Dragons and others intelligent beings fully led by evil spirits.

Who knows what they did to that poor old reptilian kind in the begging of their rants.Why they chose reptilians ,I do not know. But the fact is that in that form they were hurting us the most.

I know whom they are and some here know too.
Many do not know but think they know.

Their favorite tactic is to veil you so that your pride and ego stops you thinking more than they would like you to.
If you overcome that level, the they use fear.
Next level are physical attacks on various kind,
they cleverly choose how to present themselves to each one is is being under attack.

Mind you ,they are very old,they know a lot of tricks. They developed a lot of technology that you are not aware of.

But key thing that they miss is love. Love is THE force of Creator.
Since they denounced Creator ,they self consciously, stepped away from grace.

Now Creator always gives hand and wish to forgive and bless, but it is up to each person to do their part of humbleness and asking for forgiveness.

Those spirits are consumed by their pride.
If they continue in that ,there are no future for them.

But now, here lies the trick.

This is not about them, it is about us,since they made their choices.

1.What are our choices?

2.Do you wish to become a dragon kind or do you wish to grow as human-an image of Creator?

Choose wisely.

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ah yes... you already know then...:original:

is a smile not worth the recollection of such knowledge...

All is well in the heavenly kingdom... which is not this experience...

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Haha, thanks for that Fred...

Really hilarious!

I'm just not understanding how this whole topic of someone getting banned has evolved into a debate about Jesus Christ, possession, demons, etc...
Everyone needs to take a chill pill IMHO :D

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Mother Mudra--

I was just about to log-out (after my last post) but only got so far before i realized i was heavy and aching in my spirit. So, i deliberately came back on this thread to ask you to send some more words of Truth, Light, and Love this way ..... I NEED them! ..... and then, before i could even ask, there you were with your magic of the Unified Love.

Thank you SO MUCH, sweet sister. I receive the balm for my soul that you so graciously offer us, and i extend you my deep gratitude

much love to you Mudra, Celine, Anchor, LionHeart, et al,

you sister in the eternal love of the One who Makes Us One,
hippihillbobbi

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OMG, this is hilarious. Lil Miss chickenhawk, I've got terrible news. You're about to look very stupid. A role you don't have to take acting lesson for. That big incriminating list? It's a list of people who've visited the closet where Richard hid the Abraxas/Thuban stuff. That's all. visitors to a web page are on your list. I believe I made 2 posts the whole time, and one of them was to explain that Tango can't ban people.

Not that it's important. What is important, and going to redden your cheeks some, is that the cracks have arrived, and the light is shining and the truth is climbing out through the cracks, and hidden foot has been hiding her role as hidden hand too. Big surprised.

Oh, how delicious. Feeling that light yet? coming soon. who's been manipulating things from formerly concealed, dark little corners? why none other than our own little miss Medieval princess, ChickenHawk. Come on now. Take a bow for the folks. But put some clothes on first. Must be getting drafty there all exposed like that.

In any case, I think playing at batman would be more fun than "awwwww, I was supposed to get the pink lightsaber today. Pink is my colour. MOMMMM?

Give it a rest, Lionhawk. There are grownups playing here.

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i did not get that "feeling" last nigth MP2

i am not proud of how i feel...

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Your view is one to be contemplated...

Did the creator not create these beings as well?

are we to suggest that the infinite one was unaware of such an outcome?

Do you believe that humans are going to evolve over night like a light being switched on?

Perhaps you are of the belief that a messiah will come to save us...

I choose human evolution my friend .... although i plan on doin it withouth hate for any being created by the creator... sorry just my take..

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i would very much like to share with my fellow avalonians a couple of my fav buddha dhammas

it is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles.
then the victory is yours;
it cannot be taken away from you, not by angles or by demons, heaven or hell

to straighten the crooked
you must first do a hard thing'
straighten yourself

you too shall pass away,
knowing this, how can you quarrel?

i really hope that you ALL understand what i am trying to say

because i have really had enough of all of this and i know others have too.
sometimes silence is golden and calm is healing.

before anyone says oh just another person spouting love and not meaning it.........well i mean it very much i do live my life by this, for me it is the ONLY way forward though this life. i have friends here on both sides of the camp and i am so saddened that this fighting is still going on. so i would ever so gently remind folks to PLEASE be respectfull to one and another. you get what you give out that is one of the universal laws and you may like to meditate on that for a while

and so i will let you ponder on these thoughts............

love to you all
m x

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Mp2...

I hope you are prepared to relinquish some fire before letting it spew on every post...

All members of the forum should be treated with courtesy... even if they are good at pushing buttons...

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don't all of you miss the days here in Avalon of absolute terror sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for the world to come to an end...

at least we all stood together... :sad:

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Someone should make a movie called 'Camelot and Avalon' covering the high and low points of the Bill and Kerry saga. The trouble is...it would have to be twenty hours long...and that would be after extensive editing!

Lionhawk...I liked your version of the Council of Thuban! I can't believe the drama surrounding abraxasinas and the Thuban threads! Save the drama for your mamma! We are quite the unruly bunch...aren't we!

I'm still sensing an abraxasinas/walk-in attempted defection from darkness to light. I could be wrong...and I have no idea if this attempt has been successful...or will be successful. Here's an invitation to you abraxasinas (and your walk-in)...to reject evil...and choose goodness...no matter how much it costs. I doubt that any of us have any idea whatsoever...what it would cost to be a top-level spiritual defector. I doubt that any of us have any idea whatsoever...how much it costs to keep light on this Earth. No idea.

:original: Namaste :wub2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wub2: Freedom :original:

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And frankly IMHO, it's brain-dead cr@p threads like this one, staying atop the "New Posts"
list for a week at a time that probably get people to stay away in droves.

I am so glad I am not a mod here. Like I tried to say politely on

• page 6 (i believe) it's pointless,
• page 15 that it should have been thrown in the crapper on page 2,
• and again here on page twenty-whatever it is.

Mostly what I am getting from it is a growing decision not to bring anything serious here,
considering what this thread reveals about so many, and what topics have legs.


PS: Morguana;
I just gave it a thought. Dump this turkey in the crapper and flush.

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Yeah...those were the days......:nono:

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I never lived in terror - did I miss something?

AJ..

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not really anchor, same old, same old at the mo :thumbdown:

would like to share ross's words once again

sammasati (remember)
m x

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go back to sleep anchor and remember 2008 was a wonderful year...

:mf_popeanim::naughty:

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I'll second that.

These people posting are more interested in hearing themselves speak, pointing fingers and antagonizing others than in making helpful contributions.

I'm out.

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we didn;'t either ;)

people can't visit threads,
that are hidden from view ?

although systems likely keep a record,
of anyone who ever visited them
while they were up

as, for lionhawks comments ~ how is it, that you post laugher ?

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That or close it and hang it up on the Avalon wall of Shame...

but my vote is... :mf_pain:

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Thanks for the humor Fredkc, A picture sometimes can say alot! lol


Those are wise words indeed Ross H. Thank you for reminding us ALL.


Gita, thanks for the insight and for the wise words as well. We all are learning a lot here, to say otherwise is arrogance. I'm glad some of this energy, wasn't wasted :)


Hippihillbobbi, You are trully gifted, we all are in our on ways. But I just love how said it above. Took the words out my mouth/mind ,so to say. :)

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fred and rocky-shorz i so agree, but it seems that when we do this folk who just cant let sleeping dogs lie goes and posts another thread.....like many headed hydra

but for the record if it was my vote then i can say its a yes

love m x

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Well lets see who the top ten posters are to this thread at this time:

Why post if you dont like it?

AJ..

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Yes i talk alot...probably most people think i say alot of nothing..

but i know i dont.

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Because of spiritual integrity...because I care...because I love

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You wear your heart out in the open.

I dont see many people seriously complaining about the way you post.

AJ..

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Dont like what?

This is NOT a thread about Thuban..never was...

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I like your posts.

Comment was aimed at those who posted a lot but are calling for the thread to be dumped.

I sympathise - it isnt nice to see a thread that you really dont want to read being smashed to the top of the forum new list every five seconds.

That is why I asked to see if threads can be marked unbumpable (maybe this would require a change to the forum software - probably).

AJ..

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It may be time for some to step away from the computor...grab some fresh air, play in the snow, swim at the beach, help someone less fortunate, re-group yourselves.

there is life out there beyond PA.

Peace.

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Wow, very interesting Anchor! Can you show me how to pull those stats!

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Why should it matter Anchor ? Thats where it went wrong in the Abrax thread............

we could listen but not speak.

Thank you Stardust, Lionhawk and Celine for caring about all of us and not just one person.

Seems pretty pathetic that you three are put down for doing exactly what others are saying we did to Abrax.

All I can say is pratice what you preach to the criers that think the accuser should be burned for daring to speak up.

Bravo for the ones that have a voice and USE IT

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:thumb_yello: I totally agree with you.

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people like you, help me to find my voice..

LionHawk, Anchor, MP2 and yes even Abraxas as well as others...have all helped me to learn and grow...i only wish i could offer the same...


You are welcome..may your heart always be warmed by the light of love