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[QUOTE=greybeard;243865]And how, exactly, is that done?

Is there a name and an e-mail address to use?

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[QUOTE=4Q529;243994]Sorry thought you would know.
Anchor is a posting member like the rest of us.
His name and a picture of an achor will be beside the post you click on the picture and you can then select the mode of getting in touch.
Also on the top of every page there is a black bar with a CONTACT button.
Try that.
You can of course as a member start a thread of your own about what you are trying to achieve.
I cant remember off hand how I did it.

Hope this helps
Chris

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Hello 4Q529, I would suggest that you can start a new thread with the info you want to convey.
No need to ask for approval, as long as is within the policies of this forum.

JMHO

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You beat me to that, Chris :thumb_yello:

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That makes a change Dan :mfr_lol:
Im quite happy to sit back. Im getting lazy in my old age.

Thanks though for all your posts.

Chris

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First is "I", and then "you" and "he",
It will manifest the same.
You should seek the true meaning of Self.
Once located,
Ego will vanish, taking with him all others,
Melting in perfect consciousness, where
Self alone remains, the only One.

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i cant believe it took me this long to make my way to this thread, a lot of great wisdom here. basically, my spirituality is an ultimate goal of being myself, in the deepest sense of the idea. by 'myself' i mean my inner spirit, my being, the space that i am when i completly let go and let flow what the universe would have flow. to me, the ego is the part of me that is fighting this. i wish i could just live by it, to be fearless and completely here and now, but it's easier said than done in my experience. i would imagine the result of being 'real' is enlightenment if what we really are is spiritual beings. aha! i've only been in the presence of one person in this state and she was the most graceful person i've ever seen, she wouldn't claim it but she is indirectly a great spiritual teacher, just by being herself. a bodhisattva.

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Dear Carriblu
Thank you for your beautiful contribution.
Yes when all that is not you is removed, only God remains.

Please tell you friends about the thread, I learn daily from all who post here.


Chris
Namaste
Ps. if you just happened on this thread please take the time to read other pages, a lot of good posts at the front.

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Dear friends

On the forum we get all different levels of spiritual truth, mostly secondhand.

Can I suggest if you are interested in moving forward to true Enlightenment
that you do a search for Dr David Hawkins on the link below.

http://thepiratebay.org/

You will need, to use torrent software to down load the Dr Hawkins videos you will find there.
There is no cost, completely free.

There is a series of lectures year by year so it will take some time to download but well worth the effort.

Dr Hawkins is speaking from the level of enlightenment so you are getting undiluted Truth from a mystic of out time.

Chris
Namaste

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[QUOTE=greybeard;244005]Great.

Thanks for the info.

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To my understanding, Self, whether capitalized or not, is the source of duality; the "self" really consisting of "self"/"not self"; that is, a spatialized duality. My "self" being over here and your "self" being over there.

This "Self" or "self" is created by the 'movement' of self-reflection (symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis and the "dragon" in the Revelation of John) and is symbolized by the "beast of the sea" in the Revelation of John; the ego (I prefer 'thinker') being symbolized by the "beast of the earth".

This "Self"--the fracturing of reality into a duality--is what Jesus refers to as "Satan" or the "father of lies".

Such a consciousness is the 'fallen' consciousness which has created itself in opposition to the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27)

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I would suggest that this is not what is stated in either Genesis or the Gospel of Thomas.

Rather, when the "self" and the 'thinker' are removed, what remains is not God at all, but the non-spatial, non-temporal "observing consciousness" (of the Eastern esoteric traditions, and as conveyed in at least some of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti) Created by and in the image of God'.

In other words, whatever God is, is utterly beyond the non-spatial, non-temporal consciousness Created by God.

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I suggest that any attempt to 'move forward to true Enlightenment' is to follow an image/thought which is based upon the desire/fear of the "self"/'thinker' for its own self-preservation; and, for that reason, a fundamentally dualizing pursuit.

As suggested and relentlessly explained by Krishnamurti, the only possible outcome of such a pursuit is more conflict and violence, more preservation of the duality of the "self".

I suggest that any images of "Enlightenment" simply be set aside; that consciousness itself merely be observed to see what it consists of; and, if there is any such thing as a dimension of consciousness which exists beyond that 'normal' consciousness, that will emerge from observation rather than the pursuit of an image/thought.

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Thanks for this

Problem is words can only point to and are not it.
Context gives meaning and the subject is so deep and on on different levels of perception that-- That which cannot be spoken of is pointed to but is not it.

Its true that the spiritual ego thinks it is going to be an enlightened ego, (no that is not going to happen) also true that in the beginning there is a desire for enlightenment but even that is a desire and must be released.

Im not a Cristian but l love the teaching of Jesus so I cant quote bible chapter and verse.

My understanding of enlightenment is that it is inherrent within us and we can work to remove the obstacles,(with Gods help), mainly egoic, that stand between us and our true Buddic nature.

When all that is not God is removed the Truth stands out. Only the power of God can remove these obstacles.

"Only God walks through the final door of enlightenment."

That is a quote from Dr Hawkins so dont shoot the messenger.

I know that enlightenment means that I have to die to God and I am prepare to do this out of Love and Devotion to Him who gives me every breath I take.

Im also aware It is correct to live a contemplative life of observation without comment or positionality.

One person I met in Scotland told me that he meditated hours a day, did every practice under the sun for years, finally gave it all up and within a week nonduality happened he was in Oneness.
There has been a lot of good information posted in previous pages coming from various level of perception all valid to that particular level.
all points of view are welcome.

Love and respect to all.
Chrisl

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With regards to the whole message of this thread, I do not consider it to be merely a "spiritual" matter, merely a trivial matter.

Rather, determining that it is possible to step outside of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' is crucial to the very survival of human civilization itself.

In fact, it is precisely the attachment to the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'--through the stubborn belief in religious doctrines which flagrantly contradict the Revelations received by Moses, the prophets, Jesus and Mohammed--which is the specific consciousness which is pushing this civilization towards suicide.

So, for anyone discussing this, do not simply assume that this is merely a trivial matter of serious concern only to the few.

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Dear 40529 244688
While there is quite a bit of humor on the thread, with respect, if you read from page one right through you will find that the whole essence of the thread is the importance as you have said to the survival of the human race, of transcending ego and releasing attachment to the "self" and thinker.

Yes you are right it is that important.

You will find Dr Hawkins saying the same thing.

Chris

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Im sure God doesn't need me as a recruiting officer.
The power of His love is the attraction for me and millions of others..
Some will be attracted, some will not.

I cant force or push those not ready to wake up, it would be a vanity on my part to think I could force anyone to see my point of view.

All I can do is share what I believe to be true and surrender the end result to God.
I believe Jesus said " Of my self I do nothing, it is the father within who is the doer"

I believe that a rising of conscious is happening, so many have prayed for this since Jesus left this earth that the power of prayer may just be having the desired effect.

When conscious has risen enough more people will be awakening.

Ive said before that Eckhart Tolle's book "The Power of Now" has sold millions and is now in many languages. Twenty years or so ago he would have been lucky to have sold a few thousand copies, So people are now ready to read spiritual books written by those with us now who are enlightened.

God would not leave us without the high spiritual energy radiated out from the auric field of the Mystic at this challenging time and there probably are several present in the world now.
The spiritual energy coming from one enlightened sage is so powerful that it counteracts the negative energy of millions of people, thats why the spiritual intention to be enlightened, to die to God and be born anew is so vital.

Anything that is fear based is not of love not of God, however it is necessary to know the consequences of turning away of Love.

I am very positive about the future of the human race, the "signs" are positive.

With Love Chris

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Self pity seems to be big industry on this planet. What would be the next level of awareness above self-pity?

Compassion, not sympathy, is becoming my new policy :-)

I am not as bad at feeling sorry for myself as I used to be.

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Compassion for yourself my friend.
" A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle has an enormous amount of information that is helpful in this world.
Your regular visits does me the power of good as does my new friends dropping in.
Tea or coffee next time?
Virtual friend ships are valid.

Chris

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Thanks for this RedeZra.
So true.
Chris
Namaste

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RedeZra
I bought product Vanish but it didn't work.
Can I get my money back?:mfr_lol:
I am waiting impatiently for God to finish the job he started.
If not NOW when?:mfr_lol:

We know each other my brother.
How come you got all the poetry and creative ability and I didn't my friend?

Chris

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Nonono... this is Blood Sweat and Tears...




Happy Saturdays !

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As the phoenix rises from it's own ashes, so does Self arise from the death of self.

The seperate self is the illusion, the I is the real deal. I in Oneness. We are One, we are not the same.

We are One, we are not the same.

We are One, we are not the same.

We are One, we are not the same.

Human ego death is not the end of Self, it is the birth of Self.

God did not create us to disappear into a blob. We are in a schoolroom, here to grow, master this environment and Ascend back when we have done so to our God Self. We are an individualization of our I AM Presence, an individualization of the Divine.

Our mission is to Be below all that we are above. Meaning, surrender the separate identity, the human ego, and let our own I AM Presence fill our holy grail, our cup, with the life eternal, the blood of Christ, the Christ consciousness.

Beyond duality is reality where you and I are infinite potentiality. Be. ;)

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I've updated this as the last one was a bit dualistic (maybe this one is too? hope not too much)

We have quotes from 'enlightened' people like Sri Ramana Maharshi above.

Now tell me, according to our understanding has this man's ego died?

If so, then according to the theory, there is no individuality beyond human ego, then David Hawkins, Eckhart Tolle, Jesus Christ, Gautama Buddha and Sri Ramana Maharashi are all:

a) Exactly the same.
b) The fullness of the Creator.

If that's not the case, then I highly suggest taking another look at this theory that beyond ego is simply just the fullness of God.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there is infinite co-creation and eternal free will beyond the human ego.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the purpose of Life is for co-creators to awaken to their True identity as individualization's of the infinite and grow their unique perspective in Oneness with All that IS rather than the whole thing just being a dream that wraps and there's this one I in the sky and that's it. Perhaps just perhaps, there is a purpose for creation, and their are fruits of creation, and the fruits of creation are "I"s who choose to BE to Co-create with the Divine in the eternal Now to continually expand and experience All that I's / IS.

Perhaps there is More to the story that either your the ego or your the fullness of God. Perhaps there is much More.

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Is God infinite? Is God a creator? If so, then is it possible that God truly wishes to share the kingdom with free willed co-creators, individualization's of itSelf? And if this was God's Will and purpose for creation, should we tell God that he did it wrong and we don't want to make choices or exist?

I believe God created this schoolroom as a platform for the evolution of souls. Not towards sameness, but towards uncovering each our divine individuality eternally Now.

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Infinite Individual Expression Of Beingness .. so it is.

Namaste~I honor the truth in you as it is the truth in me.

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Yes ~ we've been living under the illusion of non-beingness, of being the ego, the thinker, this is the problem. Our Free Will is not the problem. Our Divine individuality is not the problem. The problem is we've come to identify as the bundle of illusions of separation that have taken on a life of their own as this character we've created, the human ego.

But we're much More than the ego. Our I is real, very real. It's time we stopped associating our Self with the seperate victim consciousness and took up our rightful role as Co-creators in Oneness with I AM.

Each of us has different momentum's, talents, points of view, there is nothing wrong with this, this is in fact Divine. We are the body of God, but we are not the same part. We each have a unique role to play in the awakening of the divine in All Life. Not to disappear, but to awaken.

Here's a riddle I like:

I Am you and you are me and together we are More. But you are you and I Am me, and we are each uniquely I AM.

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Riddle me this: I am the One, yet I am individually expressed. Therefore who am I?

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This is a great thread and should be printed out for further study, contemplation and meditation.

The question of the ages: Who am I?

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My understanding is that there is only one Spirit, and That Spirit is infinitely expressed as the individual being of all life, no matter what that life-form is. Separation is the illusion - that is the so-called matrix.

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Thus, you have perfectly described the human dilemma.

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Great chit-chat on this thread... :original:

The matter of fact is that the ego is our worst enemy (adversary).

I, us, we have to fight the ego (duality), every moment of spiritual growth.

I, us, we have the free will to either manifest God/Love/Christos, or ego/satan/devil.

I, us, we can Be MORE in the I AM THAT I AM.


~ Espavo ~