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I wonder who your working for,you gottte me kidding me that your call this proof. When the government corruptions is almost on its highest.

Stop trying to discredit some one when you do not have a clue what your talking about. Why don't you join www.nsa.gov or would I say http://www.itanimulli.com

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Bill: Whatever happened to that Polish guy invention that you mentioned in one radio show, which consists of nano tubes and allows you to breath under water? You were going to test it in your bath tub and report on the next show lol

Does it work??

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remember Bill Ryan is no more aware or "knowing" than most other people in respect to future events or BS detection,he may know more about what "insiders" have said tho him but those insiders are also heavily mind -controlled and Bill is unable to be sure of what ANY of them say...the only way we can truly KNOW what is going on is by purifying our hearts,souls,minds and bodies...intellectual analysis is VERY limited,Bill looks at things from a very scientific MINDED stance,which has it's merits,but in order to discern TRUTH it is the heart and inner connection that is IMPORTANT...when both the mind and the heart are highly synchronised and developed THEN truth can be FELT..not just theorised...do you really think Bill or Kerry are in a position to answer many of the questions posed in this thread?..it is evident in their interviews that they really knoiw very little and are just as unable to discern info from disinfo as many of us are...they are both dealing with lots of egoic issues as are the vast majotrity of us and what they say,may be interesting but it will also be very limited by their own mind and spirits development....so when asking questions of Bill ,keep that in mind and stick to his limited framework of undetrstanding,his "insider" investigations etc....and MOST OF ALL ,MEDITATE ON THE QUESTIONS you have and look for the truth vibration within yourselves.........

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Brilliant post...couldn't agree more. It's way past time to be more critical and skeptical on the camelot info. Whistleblowers, in order to be effective, should come out in the open and take responsibility for their statements. No more hiding behind, "I'll be killed." No more "inside source" without identification and backup. Otherwise anyone can say anything, much like Bill did about Steven Greer or Clif High, and Bill is a cameraman, not a researcher. Deagle lost his medical license for overprescribing meds, yet he encourages people to call in for his free medical advice. Yikes.

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have you ever spoken to dan winter and what do you think of his info and message.. his website has a massive number of hits a month. hes an intersting guy.

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@qbeac-

hello- thank you for posting your thoughts-

you are obviously a highly insightful person and your questions are incredibly valid- many kudos to you-

I agree: if disclosure, how will it be presented?- for our benefit, or for the benefit of the controllers?-

warmest regards to all from a guy in Germany

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It is possible for one to go and look at someone's space, just takes a bit of practice and best done in a meditational state. Just LOOk! Becomes more natural with practice.

That is what hubby and I did that finally made us realize the leader of the Church was operating on an evil purpose and had a lotta lotta stuff attached to him. Up until then we thought he was a good guy :thumbdown:

Gnosis

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Hi Bill & Kerry, I'm just listening to your new Camelot weekly Blog.
I was looking forward to this but it is hardly what I would call a blog. Allowing the world to phone in just makes it another radio show and because it is just the public calling in, a radio show full of useless information like what languages they speak, where they live what the weather is like etc.

I understood it would be you and kerry telling us all what Camelot has been up to all week, you don't need callers.

Yes I know Kerry couldn't get on for some technical reason, no bother, we love to hear from you, and you could bring us up to date on the week.

I hope this doesn't come across as nasty criticism, it's not meant to be, just my observation x x

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Thank you for the Freedom Central interview Bill...

Your voice is an inspiration, you are an excellent speaker, better even than some of the whistleblowers.

Cheers

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SUGGESTION/REQUEST:

I am suggesting/requesting that this thread be stickied so it is easier to locate amongst the growing number of posters in this forum.

Yes this thread is usually near the top but if this is going to be the main thread that Bill will be talking in, then it should belong with the other stickies where its easy to find by anyone + it's an important thread hence the sitcky funtion.

Thank you,
carry on.

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Dear Anchor, or whoever. . .

Thanx fer the sticky.

Fred

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Hi everybody, I’d like to add a comment to my previous post (pag. 20. #478) regarding “real ET disclosure” (positive ETs) versus “faked ET disclosure” (Project Blue Beam, negative ETs), because today I’ve just heard Kerry Cassidy saying the following:

• December 21, 2009 - AUDIO BLOG (Project Camelot)
http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html
http://projectcamelot.org/Project_Ca...ember_2009.mp3

Listener question (min. 12:40): Kerry, perhaps you would like just tell us the thing that’s most on your mind at the moment, any news that you’ve heard that really just annoys the hell out of you right now of what’s going on worldwide.

Kerry Cassidy: ok, well, actually (…) what I’m concerned about is that I’ve gotten top secret information last night [dic-20-09] about something going on that I guess is being plotted by certain groups of the illuminati and some ETs, I guess, that will involve the elimination of certain portions of the population. I think I can say that in general terms.

And I am hoping that they are not successful, obviously. And this kind of thing is what’s going on, and this is why we need to become Light Warriors, as opposed to just Light Workers. And that’s an interesting dichotomy that you can think about.

We are faced with some very positive ETs out there, and some Service To Self negative ETs. And what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and since you can never die, there’s our opportunity.

Questions to Bill and Kerry:

1) Please, Bill and Kerry, is it possible to expand a little bit what Kerry was talking about? What are they exactly plotting?

2) What does Kerry mean by “the elimination (or illumination?) of certain portions of the population”?

3) Are they perhaps plotting some sort of Project Blue Beam (good or bad version of it, *1)? Or perhaps Kerry was referring to something else?

(*1) From pag 4. Post #93: Could there be two distinct Project Blue Beam scenarios?:

a) A “bad” Project Blue Beam: a faked invasion of bad ETs against whom the elite would put up a faked battle in order to unify the world under a World Government (NWO dictatorship). Ronald Reagan talked about it in a UN speech.

b) A “good and nice” Project Blue Beam?

In this last case (b), that would be a very clever way for the elite to substitute the current “visible and fake” power structure (governments, official politicians) by a new fake one of a higher level: bad ETs pretending to be “good ETs”. It would be sort of like in the SciFi movie series “V”.

4) How is it possible that Dr. Michael Salla, a presumably well informed researcher, says what he says in his article (Ex: Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Prize to disclose the ET reality, to set up a World Government with the UN, etc.? (see article excerpt in pag. 20, Post #478). In other words, Michael Salla seems to imply that Obama’s Disclosure would be great, but he doesn’t say anything about a possible Blue Beam scenario.

So, is Michael Salla not very well informed, or are there other reasons for him to present the ET disclosure issue in such an “elite friendly” way?

Suggestion to Bill and Kerry (Project Camelot):

In case the elite is planning a faked ET disclosure scenario (Project Blue Beam), it would be of utmost importance and urgency to warn society in advance, as soon as possible, so that they don’t fool us this time, so:

Would it be possible for you to do a program (video, audio, or even a conference) specifically about this topic: the differences between the two possible disclosure scenarios, real disclosure (good ETs) versus faked disclosure (Blue Beam, negative ETs)?

It would be great to invite to this program (or conference) the most knowledgable insiders on this topic, so that they can publicly debate it among themselves and explain us (the general public) the main clues we must take into consideration to be able to discern real from fake ET disclosure.

For instance:

How do they look like (positive ETs versus negative ETs)? Do they radiate LOVE, bad, or neutral feelings? Can negative ETs disguise themselves as positive ETs? How? Can negative ETs perhaps radiate (using sophisticated technology) some sort of good feelings (euphoria, etc.) to deceive us? Will we be able to perceive any of those feeling (positive or negative)? What are they both capable of (positive & negative ETs)? Are there any differences in the way their space crafts look like? What might they say to us (each faction)? How could the scenario develop in each case? For instance: thousands of crafts appearing in the sky worldwide (hearing voices in your head, etc.), or just a couple of humanoid looking ETs appearing on TV with some official politicians (Obama, Greer, etc)…… etc.

In other words:

Please, how can we differentiate a real from a faked disclosure scenario?!!!

Suggestion to ALL users of this forum:

Anybody who has a blog, web site, forum, etc., please, SPREAD THE WORD about these two possible scenarios: real disclosure vs. faked disclosure, so that people are well informed and alert and the elite doesn’t fool us again!!!

And if possible, include also the main elements of the “Big Picture”, so that people can understand what’s going on:

- The existence of a dark cabal who rules the world (elite, illuminati, etc.)
- 911 = fraud, false flag, cover up, INSIDE JOB
- C L I M A T E - G A T E = exposes man-made Climate Change fraud
- Swine flu vaccination = total fraud
- Federal Reserve = Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves
- MSM = propaganda & lies to cover up their crimes
- NWO = elite’s New World disOrder
… etc.

But the good news is that there are solutions: an awakening of society and a rise in consciousness = UNITY and LOVE!

Thanks and Merry Christmas to everybody!

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Would it be possible for you to do a program (video, audio, or even a conference) specifically about this topic: the differences between the two possible disclosure scenarios, real disclosure (good ETs) versus faked disclosure (Blue Beam, negative ETs)?

It would be great to invite to this program (or conference) the most knowledgable insiders on this topic, so that they can publicly debate it among themselves and explain us (the general public) the main clues we must take into consideration to be able to discern real from fake ET disclosure.

Best suggestion I've seen all day. ;)

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She didn't say Illuminate Qbeac, she said Eliminate. There is a big difference and personally I would rather be Illuminated :nono:

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Well, considering their "population goals", couldn't we just compromise on ...

(God I am sorry)

... Eliminati ?


(Groan.....)

Fred

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hmmm, sorry about that, Daft Ada, and thanks for pointing that out, I’ve listened to it again and yes, it seems Kerry says “the elimination of” and not “the illumination of” (right, Kerry?)... I’ll correct it in the original post.

In any case, it depends of how they pretend to illuminate us, if they do it with a huge laser beam or microwave light (HAARP), it may mean both things at the same time: illumination and elimination… flassssshhhhh!!!

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:mfr_omg: :lightsabre: :lightsabre: Eliminati :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

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Well, I can vouch for that one. If you want insight into how a man thinks... just listen to him for 2:20 minutes, or so. If it's so easy to criticize someone in the public eye then he should probably be accused of being a gentleman, also.

(Hi'ya Fred. Long time no type where you be typin') Boy, I really missed these layout tools...:thumb_yello:

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Bill,

Is there anyway that you can archive the audio blogs that you have done on your sight. I have heard the 15 min one, but I was under the impression that there was a longer one done not too long ago, It was yesterday or two days ago.


Thanks

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Meester Zen !

Good ta seeya, sir!

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Hi Bill

you said on more tthan one occasion that the guardian/positive ETs, can't/wont help the situation we're in.
at thw same time, and it is apparent, that these guys are wholeheartedly watching over camelot and your good selves..which is great..
but in your mind, could the mentorship, that is assistance be partial? thanks.

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I don't understand why they won't help. Surely it doesn't take their advanced inteligence to clearly see that the majority of this planet is being controlled and manipulated by a few nasty, greedy, selfish cretins who have done it in such a way that we have no way of finding out who they really are. How can they not help us? they can see we have been tricked and taken advantage of.
This is something that just does NOT make sense to me, why would good ET's only meet with and do business with the the people who claim to lead and govern the countries, when they know that even if they are not directly the bad guys, they are controlled by them?
If they were really good Aliens why would they want to keep themselves secret and only deal with the people who manipulate us? :thumbdown:

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I agree completely. I am not saying that we do not need to do the work to clean up and get us out of the situation we are in, but for that to happen we, Terrans, need to be on the same page. This is where the "good aliens" can help. They could help most get to the same page. I posted about this a little earlier but I felt un easy about posting it for some reason.


I do not understand the reason for the "good aliens" not helping out because it is our problem, when other aliens have been interfering all along, maybe even from the very beginning. There has already been intervention. Just only from the bad ones. They say that a majority have to want to have help from the good aliens. That is a catch 22. In order to want help they have to know help is there. Furthermore, they have to know that we need help. Some have an inclining with trash problems and poverty, but not the true scope of things, I don't think anyone does. Maybe it is about time that we get some good intervention.

Sorry if any of that came off as aggressive. Just frustrated and have had these thoughts for a while. It just seems like a good excuse to not help humanity. All we need from them is vision to see clearly. We can handle the situation from there. But the playing field needs to be leveled.

Bill what are your thoughts?

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"Pied Piper of Heaven", an explanation of the current local exopolitics with a long runway of explanation. Just skip the first section to get to the "good stuff" if you wish.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2498145/L-...Calls-The-Tune

The more I re-tread my history as a spirit being the more I see he spaketh truth -- on the level he is speaking. Am re-reading it again for third time.


Gnosis

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We will not ever know where to start until we are taught, shown to our satisfactions, the truth of our origins... and, as you can imagine, there is quantified resistance to that happening.

Subject of Free Will needs definition, clarification...as I am SURE that most of us are not under standing what it is this "Free Will" IS, of which so many speak of so readily, cavalierly, but I suspect holds more depth..
I am just sure there is much more to this subject of "free will".
that's all folks!

I suspect that the perception of non-interference of "benevolent" or "rightness guidance" lead is our inability of self recognition of our own contribution toward the mess we are in.

I've been a participant/lurker of this site since it opened and am quite startled at the degree that others do not own their part in the mess we are in.

Brain-sweets-good nights sleep!
S

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Maybe the good ET's are waiting for us to be ready. I do not think it is because they do not want to help us.

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yes i think there is still quite a bit of work to do yet, the way people treat each other in everyday life is still mostly appalling.also on personal levels just because people are nice to each other on the surface doesnt mean the arent thinking bad things.

when we are fully ready and ego is crushed then no truth will be hidden,then we can get some help/guidance. i dont want other people fighting my battles anyway. i jsut want the tools on hand to make the fight fair.

this is probably best carried on in the spiritual forum or somehwere else more relevant.. :cup:

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Two things today Bill mate, It's the next Camelot radio show tomorrow and we still haven't got last weeks on the site, although to be honest when I look at the subject I am not sure I want to hear it and I can't understand why Camelot had him on, so therefore I need to hear it to find out. Does that make sense.

Secondly Kerry is once again spreading fear and scaring the be jesus out of everybody, and a few days before Christmas too :thumbdown:
What's with the Eliminating sections of the population? Is it just to reduce the amount of people on the planet?
First of all you could fit everyone on this planet comfortably with a bit of land each in Australia, leaving the rest of the world empty, so it is not overpopulated.
About 8 billion on the planet, you would have to eliminate at least a billion to make a difference, They could not get away with that!
How could "Sections of the population" be eliminated without someone noticing? Also what "sections" exactly? Who has made a decision that a certain Section of human beings has no right to life? Based on what? Rich? poor? colour? religion?
All sounds like complete rubish to me, like swine flu, just scare mongering, are you sure you are not being fed dissinfo and being made a fool of?

Edit:- I have been sitting here thinking about this and it occurs to me that it would be wonderful if the good aliens are meeting secretly with the PTB so that they can find out just who they are and when they have followed the trail to the top and got their list of the illuminati and all their followers and drones, guess who the section of the population to be eliminated would be? Now that would be a wonderful Christmas present, then with their guidance the right people could be put in charge to make the world as it should be.
Sorry, guess I'm just dreaming again, it's only the hope that one day that may happen that makes life worth while for me.

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When I first discovered the "Disclosure Project" and saw the video, I was amazed at Greer's courage, witnesses and testimonys... Perhaps TPTB also took notice of his actions and have somehow "compromised" him? Perhaps he had the best of intensions at the start, but perhaps now, he may not even be in total control of his own life...

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Greer took the high road. His focus and intention is on raising others consciousness through meditation and leading groups of people in contacting ETs in the spirit of Universal Peace. Since all of his ET contacts have been positive with full recall and in a state of heightened conscious awareness his ET experiences are positive.

He has not been compromised. He just evolved.

There is the saying that water seeks its own level. The same can be said for the energetic vibrational frequency one resonates at. As a person becomes more committed to the spiritual path its possible for there to be more discordant interactions from those people who are operating at a denser energetic frequency.

I would also like to add that TPTB targeted Greer and his partner for death. Subsequently both got a rare form of cancer. Greer's partner died but he was able to beat it. It is no wonder his life took another direction after years and years of doing what he could to bring disclosure at the governmental level. He realized it was not going to happen ~ TPTB, the shawdow government were never going to allow it. Even President Clinton told Greer that he would have to do it himself because if he, Clinton disclosed, TPTB would kill him. One needs to understand the personal history of Greer in order to see how he has evolved in his endevor to wake people up.

Dr. Greer is a man who has devoted his entire life to helping others at great personal sacrifice. One only has to look at his history to know that he is a man of geat integrity and spiritually motivated.

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Thank you Bill and Kerry for all that you have done in presenting me with multiple viewpoints for me to ponder. At least one things for sure......there is a lot more going on than we are and have been consciously aware of. I am so glad that you cannot prove anything. And we can all just hash it all out here on this forum and have a good time doing it. I loved your interview of 2 + hours, without a break on Freedom Central !

So my comment/request to you is in the area of your experience with your lady friend Angie. You spoke of the incident where-in you were so emotionally challenged when she up and left (who wouldn't be !) that you were unable to move physically. And I am just paraphrasing this experience of yours. My request is.....when your "visitors" came and assisted you in helping you "clear the charge" (which is a Scientology phrase is it not?)...

....can you tell us more of that and what exactly did you experience and do you think you could or have you tried to do that again on your own? And was it completely permanent in that you did not have future challenges in that arena of someone abruptly leaving you or any emotional challenge for that matter?

And since you did have assistance do you not think that we can also create or should I say co-create forms of assistance with those visitors that are interested in our well-being?

From my own understanding there is a quarantine on this planet which will be lifted 2012 (also something I cannot prove for anyone here who needs proof) and I have learned that "they" cannot do for us, we need to do it ourselves. Which from my perspective means that we DO have the power within us to create the positive, aligned, world harmony that we all so desire.

I believe that there are both positive and negative perspectives both human and ET. My choice is to align with the positive of course, but to be aware of that which is not and use the most powerful tool I know of, which is love, to represent who I am as human. Again, thank you for all that both of you have given in this awesome journey to enlightenment.

lightwalker

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I agree with everything ! As if the ETs that can travel thousands of light years need to find a small island in the pacific ocena !????
They would meet in the secret bases, underground bases etc.... And again this story of mass extermination ?! how by who /! who would they use as "conssumer" and "suppliyers" if they kill a lot (billion people) ! Let focus on good information and not just all the nonsense that there is in the net !

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Greetings Bill,

In a Business Type of mind frame - Project Camelot has created a type of a brand name, in a very specific niche.

Questions:
1. Why aren't you guys monitizing your content ?

Whats wrong with having banner ads, and niche affiliate links to books from the people you guys interview, since most of them are book writers.

Many of the people you intervew have there own sites, which sell books and other things ( for profit) ...

All of the radio shows seem to have commercials, your giving your time / content for free but they are profitting from it ...

People are exploiting your brand and niche ....

2. Why do you provide a platform for certain people who ""sell the doom and the products to save you"" ?



Thanks for your time, and any responses!

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Have a wonderful Christmas Bill and Kerry and good luck with everything you do in the new year. Thank you for all the work you have done on our behalf this year.

I guess as we haven't seen you for a while now, you are on your hard earned Christmas break, that or you have finally got fed up with some of the questions we ask you and people having a go at you. I wouldn't blame you if you did, but hopefuly we will see you back soon :thumb_yello:

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Bill & Kerrie, hope you both are having a well deserved break
over The Holidays :)
thank you, for all you do Bill
thank you, for all you do Kerrie
and, thank you mods/computer people, etc.,
and, donators, etc.,
who truly propel your missions, purposes, and, tasks
which obviously are divinely guided, divinely lead, and, divinely protected :)

Thank You to both of you, for making 2008/2009 amasing years,

Here is to a gr8 and, Grand eXchanges in 2010 :)

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Ditto

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I would suggest that anybody who cares to look at Australia on Google Earth, will soon realize that without exaggeration, approximately 80 percent of the country would be considered desert. In New Zealand where there is abundant rain and good pasture,with good management, the land can carry up to 8 or 9 head per acre. In Australia, in the areas that are not desert, the ratio is measured at about 5 to 10 acres per cow.

We live not far from the east coast on 5 acres with a miniature horse and donkey and for the last three years have had to graze them on neighboring blocks of land and supplement their feed with hay.

So I for one wouldn't suggest everyone moving to Australia - might as well suggest moving to Antarctica - at least there are no bushfires there.