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panpravda 12-17-2009 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 203020)
There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

TheChosen 12-17-2009 06:37 PM

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Those have been my same thoughts for the last few years, that we are not facing a mass destruction type of event because all those 'indigos' wouldn't come here just to be obliterated by some tsunami wave. (I've actually been repeatedly told in the astral that it is only because of them/us that such a tsunami is not happening)

But I disagree on the direction this will take. I expect in few years the DNA of our body computers to mutate to a sufficient degree so the powers such as telekinesis/levitation/matter manipulation can be activated.. which is what passing into so called 4th density is all about.

This is when the indigos step in with the 'know how' of using those powers in a creative manner. Having indigos in a world where these powers remain inactive is like (using Bill's setting) having the best dancers in the world incarnating on a planet where people are born paralyzed from the weist down. They would never volunteer for such a waste of ability when they could be expressing their full potential elsewhere, the same as they most likely wouldn't voluntter for a tsunami future.. In such a case a relatively much less involved souls would be coming in, ones with experience mainly in the physical 3D world... which is clearly not the case. All the indigos seem to be mainly adept at manipulating energy and are actually having huge problems with physical existence


Still I am actively preparing in 3D for a mass exctinction event. There is nothing to say that they all incarnated with the knowledge that only 5% will 'survive'... just because death means nothing to an advanced soul.. and 5% is more than a good reason if that means the evolution of humanity onto the next stage. And of course, we all know spectacular plans can fail spectacularly.. and that includes the plan for human evolution.

I am sorry for this interruption. I know this is a topic only for questions but I felt the need to share my thoughts on this subject (ascension and what it means) which is I feel THE most important subject we need to be dealing for the next few years.

Cyaneyed 12-17-2009 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 202882)

1) Indigos: I'm not personally clear whether they're a different kind of human being, a different kind of soul (e.g. from elsewhere or elsewhen), or just a generic term for newcomers who are happily and freely surfing on the wave of the increase of consciousness that is definitely here and building.

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

If that was predestined or unavoidable or sitting there on some fixed future, they wouldn't have come here. (And neither would I, or probably any of you.) I talk about this in my Freedom Central interview.

2) Tsarion: yes, would love to talk with him.

Thanks for the answers and insights, Bill. Much appreciated. I'd follow up/ask more but this thread is (happily) well and truly inundated and I don't want to take up any more of your time.

Regards,

- Cyaneyed

Frank Samuel 12-17-2009 07:17 PM

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Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars:thumb_yello:

truth and integrity 12-17-2009 07:20 PM

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[ It is dangerous when we see authority for the truth rather than the truth for authority.

Can i use this when ever I want to?

This is most truth i've ever seen here!]

Yes.You can use it. I like this one too because it is very empowering. We give our power away on a regular basis.

Brinty 12-17-2009 07:44 PM

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Hi Bill, on behalf of many others like myself, who have followed your answers with great interest, but have not participated (as yet) in this thread, may I thank you for your honest, simple and well thought out answers. You help shine a guiding light down some dark and scary alleyways. That alone must earn you some brownie points. :original:
May you and Kerry have a happy and healthy future ahead of you - and know that your work is of immense value in helping people become aware. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. :thumb_yello:

badger1988 12-17-2009 07:45 PM

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Any thoughts you could share with us on Val Valerian? Would you consider an interview at any time?

Also, wondered if you had read the fascinating information (available in free PDF format online) contact from planet koldas - carl von vleirden/wendelle stevens?

What do you make of the Billy Meir case? I find it one of the most credible. (Apart from the comments he made on other contactee's such as Alex Collier)..

Any new interviews planned with Alex? I know you anserwed that already but I think there are many people that would love that interview.. :-)

Many thanks.....

Bill Ryan 12-18-2009 12:10 AM

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Hello, All:

Still catching up :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tr4nce4life (Post 199258)
I was wondering if you caught an original movie on SyFy channel this year called Terminators?[/url]

Additionally, what do you make of Peter Moon (of The Montauk Project), specifically his newer work called Transyvanian Sunrise?[/url]

Very sorry - I don't watch TV, and I've not read Transylvanian Sunrise...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum (Post 199301)
So would Project Camelot feel it's too dangerous to be involved with disclosing advanced Free Energy hardware?

If given the opportunity, would Project Camelot not help in someway to facilitate the release of practical FE hardware to the public?

No, not too dangerous. I was just stressing that it was dangerous :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinsuemei2 (Post 199413)
I was wondering what your theories if any are about a MKUltra Type program run by the ETS? I am not talking about Serpo, but a kind of Human genetic crossbreeding enhancement?

This is what Dr David Jacobs believes is in process, and he may be right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 199427)
If Jane Burgermeister is the victim of specific mind control techniques along the lines of MKULTRA projects, her integrity would not be a factor, correct?

Correct. Same goes for you, me, and anyone else who might be unknowingly affected. :)

The problem with anyone accusing anyone else of being mind-controlled is that it can only be proved with difficulty, one cannot subjectively be aware of it, and in the absence of proof is just an unpleasant allegation to which the accused can't logically respond in any way apart from feeling offended. So the argument is probably not a very useful one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daft Ada (Post 199526)
Hey Bill they are having a go mate, what say you to this
http://nwocollapse.freehostia.com/article.php?ID=373

If that's a measure of the writer's quality of research, no-one has anything to fear!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonah (Post 199539)
Bill,

Has there ever been a romantic connection between you and Kerry?

There was when we started Camelot. We successfully made a pretty smooth transition to a brother-and-sister relationship about a couple of years ago. Credit to both of us... as everyone reading this will know, this is not always guaranteed to be easy. The thing that united us was always the mission of Camelot.

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Originally Posted by powerviolence (Post 199549)
A question, Bill, you say that having any concrete proof of anything would be dangerous for you guys, but are you sure it has to be that way? Concrete proof of anything would possibly propel your work to a much more serious status of importance that would let the 'sheeple' so to speak try to get into Camelot. We all believe and trust you guys, but how long can blind faith last..

Understood. It's a bit like the Free Energy question above. Having proof is dangerous, but we don't have any - so there are no decisions to make.

If we DID, thought, I promise you we would NOT sit on it and would definitely find a way to get it out there.

What Camelot is really doing is changing people's thinking and the way they relate to the world - not hammering people over the head trying to argue a case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleni (Post 199691)
Leo Zagami claims we have been duped by the UFO movement and ET's are really demonic entities. What is your take on this?

Mine is that there exists both ET's and interdimensional good and bad guys and Leo has been fed what they want him to believe to keep the *picture view* confined.

I agree 100%!

More tomorrow... Cheers, B

Gnosis5 12-18-2009 01:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel (Post 203266)
Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars:thumb_yello:

Hello Frank, almost exactly what was posted in another thread. I too see earth as a model of collapsed dualities, and part of the mopping up action in this universe in which we will play a part.

Gnosis

Gnosis5 12-18-2009 01:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panpravda (Post 203213)
Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

That was also the path of Gautama Buddha. I share this path with you.

Gnosis

Gnosis5 12-18-2009 02:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie (Post 202663)
I sense that soon a message is forthcoming from Bill in the vein that "I'm just too darned busy to keep up with this thread" type thing. I'm waiting to see if my question, post #380 gets addressed. How in the heck this has not even been asked by others is beyond me really!

anyhoo in response to this posted above:
"his own son co-wrote a book detailing much of the life of Hubbard, and neither of his wives say much nice about him"....

hey, don't forget that there is no honor to be bestowed by your family members (chit, I can't remember the exact wording of this "famous" saying.._ but you get the gist)... I'm tired...


I'm glad I wasn't his wife or child, but I'm sure glad he was there to help me in 1948. Bible says not to be unequally yoked...perhaps his first wives and his children did not do the spiritual clearing work he did and so remained a bit more fixed in 3D. I know it's not that simple, but wanted to add some balance.

eleni 12-18-2009 02:10 AM

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Bill- thanks for answering me concerning Leo Z.

What is your take on the latest Serpo release?

Quantum 12-18-2009 04:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 203538)
No, not too dangerous. I was just stressing that it was dangerous :)

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Understood. It's a bit like the Free Energy question above. Having proof is dangerous, but we don't have any - so there are no decisions to make.

If we DID, thought, I promise you we would NOT sit on it and would definitely find a way to get it out there.

As with many of the subjects covered by Project Camelot, bringing out advanced Free Energy technology is equally daunting.
  1. Most people need to change their minds about its existence.
  2. It will not come from government, universities, or corporations.
  3. Much of what is public on the internet is confusing and marginalized.
So with a sincere intent and in the spirit of 'safety in numbers', I am asking for your help in, "finding a way to get it out there". Will you (Project Camelot) help?

Can you relate to these principles?
  • To raise awareness of leading methods in energy technology, eliminating need for fuel or weather conditions,
  • To enhance the quality of life for all of humanity and the planet’s fragile ecosystems,
  • To produce this leading edge technology free of corporate profiteering, political control, or corruption,
  • To distribute these New Technologies viably to the public, at affordable cost to all,
  • To save substantial dollars, reducing “dirty” electricity, by adopting green power made right at home.
  • To remain a grassroots, co-operative, public initiative, managed, funded, and maintained as such.

Thank you.

Gnosis5 12-18-2009 04:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum (Post 203718)
As with many of the subjects covered by Project Camelot, bringing out advanced Free Energy technology is equally daunting.
  1. Most people need to change their minds about its existence.
  2. It will not come from government, universities, or corporations.
  3. Much of what is public on the internet is confusing and marginalized.
So with a sincere intent and in the spirit of 'safety in numbers', I am asking for your help in, "finding a way to get it out there". Will you (Project Camelot) help?

Can you relate to these principles?
  • To raise awareness of leading methods in energy technology, eliminating need for fuel or weather conditions,
  • To enhance the quality of life for all of humanity and the planet’s fragile ecosystems,
  • To produce this leading edge technology free of corporate profiteering, political control, or corruption,
  • To distribute these New Technologies viably to the public, at affordable cost to all,
  • To save substantial dollars, reducing “dirty” electricity, by adopting green power made right at home.
  • To remain a grassroots, co-operative, public initiative, managed, funded, and maintained as such.

Thank you.


It is almost as if there is some morphic field that is being continuously "put there" not by the Cabal, but by the very populace itself. I don't think we are spiritually ready for the floodgates of unbounded materialism to open up, amd that might be the why of the self-inflicted blindness.

gnosis

Dougall 12-18-2009 11:02 AM

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Bill Ryan 12-18-2009 11:15 AM

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Hello, All:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 199710)
Have you ever considered doing an interview with Anna Hayes? If you ever did, that would be an astonishing interview. But be warned that lady is packed full of information. She talks kind of fast. And maybe you should consider playing a leading role in the interview process. That would be an interesting twist.

Yes - Kerry wants to do this. (Nothing yet scheduled, though.)

Why do you think I should play a lead role in that? (curious...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 199710)
Are you aware of an ET force coming in to clean up our mess and rid the planet of tyranny? If so, you can PM me. We don't want to scare the folks here. Or you can just say, yes or no. lol

No... please see my reply on p.18 (#435) here.

We have to clean up our own mess. We have to face what we have done. I doubt anyone else out there will overtly intervene in that unless (a) the ecosphere really would be destroyed and also (b) there were resources here of some kind (and I include DNA and cultural heritage as resources) which ETs would want to protect for reasons best known to themselves.

In my view, the challenge is for us to wake up, get responsible and competent, and handle the vast, backlogged accumulation of serious problems without our 'parents' having to do it all for us.

We have to bear in mind that (b) above is an important factor: [reworded] the investment the ETs might have as stakeholders in Planet Earth. There are plenty of planets out there - probably billions or more. Depending on the ETs' spiritual orientation, they may well just leave us to it as it's all part of our learning as souls.

Maybe some day (and there's an infinity of time, remember: in all of existence no-one's going anywhere... we're all here to stay) we might learn to get it right. If we lose this game, we just control-alt-delete and start again personally. And again, and again... this is what karma is.

It might possibly be the ultimate egotism: that we humans believe there's anything special about us or Planet Earth.

I say that for necessary thought-provoking perspective. A little humility might help us all realize the mess we are in.

But actually, I do believe there's something special about us here and now... hence all the interest, attention and subtle assistance (or interference) from outside.

I talk about some of this a little more in my Freedom Central interview. This is an important and interesting topic for me, hence my recent long replies :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 199710)
There is much activity going on with the vortexes appearing along with many reports of ufos. Are many of these sightings coming from Earth bound Humans? What is your opinion?

I really don't know. The best argument I've seen that the Norway spiral wasn't just a malfunctioning rocket is that all sightings and photos of it were face on, whatever the perspective. And the Chinese video of the same thing, first rotating one way and then the other, really got my attention. So at the moment I'm just waiting for the next one :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surial (Post 199710)
Have you seen the video of the Brazilian man reporting that the Pleiadeans landed and were testing for dimensional frequency readings to make a golden path appear to a portal?

No... I really don't know much about the Pleiadians apart from what I've read, as everyone here has.

As I stated in an earlier answer, I did know someone very well about 15 years ago who I (and she) were as sure as we each could be that she was an incarnated Pleiadian, this being her second lifetime here.

She had detailed intact memories and told me that one reason she had come here was that things in the Pleiades were not going so well any more and that there were all kinds of political and other problems there, and she was disillusioned - so she came here to help out and also take a break.

We talked about this at great length and it was all pretty real for me at the time. She was tall and slim, delicate, sensitive, highly intelligent, psychic, had beautiful blue eyes, earned a living by making (under contract) exquisite fine-pen illustrations of archeological findings... and had dark hair. If she'd been blonde, she could have stepped straight out of a UFO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjkted (Post 199760)
On PA (as well as some of the other 2012-related forums I watch), some people are of the opinion we will just ascend into 4D/5D space, and thus won't have to worry too much about practical things like food and shelter. As a skeptic, it's unfortunate that most of this info is channeled/intuitive as it is not completely possible to authenticate the source.

I'm curious to hear your personal views on the endgame. Do you have any insider information on or from the people promoting 2012 as personal ascension?

Please see all my comments above and in my post yesterday, #435 here.

Probably more later today - very best to all, B

Fredkc 12-18-2009 03:30 PM

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Quote:

This is an important and interesting topic for me, hence my recent long replies.
Thank you for that in two ways.
1. It has been a difficult thing, trying to get a very detailed picture of what you think, out of all the interviews you've done. Congratulations, because that is at it should be.

On another thread here, the subject came up (often does) about the interviews all just "being there", good, bad, mostly true, mostly BS, or whatever, that B & K didn't put some kind of disclaimers or "flavoring" to them in advance. I said "Say 'Thank You', they just paid you a compliment." That you had simply put it out there, think of it what you will. (The possibility that all things are possible, always seems the most daunting, I guess.)

I confess I have yet to listen to the Freedom Central interview, but as today will be a "slower day" for me. twill happen.

2. Because of what you're doing with PA/PC you do run through all the different folk who touch on "all this" at a faster pace than most, hearing your impressions of diff folk, and subjects is still helpful, despite the silly "he said, then you said" stuff it seems to attract. Much appreciated. BTW, a filtered page of just your posts is helpful.
_________________________________________

I have a friend of 15 years, engineer, physicist, inventor, all around "crazy old fart, and a "former Scientologist" (if there is such a thing) and auditor. He has, to my knowledge, not attended a single "official" function of any kind in all the time I've known him. Yet not a meeting goes by, between us, where he does not point out some bit of "Ron said this", or "Ron pointed out that...". While he does this a lot, he has never once mentioned the "Church" or even hinted or tried to steer me in that way. (all the better as I would have to respond with the nightmare of helping a friend get shed of them)

My take is that he seems to have done a fairly "clean job" of separating out the man and his stuff from the organization, on his own.

I sent him the link to the Dane Tops interview last nite. Perhaps it will even get me to separate the baby from the bathwater a lil bit.
_________________________________________

Lastly;
Quote:

She was tall and slim, delicate, sensitive, highly intelligent, psychic, had beautiful blue eyes, earned a living by making (under contract) exquisite fine-pen illustrations of archeological findings... and had dark hair.
I am happily married these 24 1/2 years, so if it should ever come up I will deny it, but I just have to ask...

Does she have a sister ? :mfr_lol:

Fred

max 12-18-2009 04:15 PM

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Mr Bill Ryan, I've been mulling whether to communicate this, you may not have any value but "something" makes me want to communicate. I had thought of sending it to the email address provided on the blog of Project Camelot, but last month I sent a picture and post I came back to the trash, plus we are writing so many that maybe when you read and had no importance, if it now has meaning.
Since it is a question not expect an answer, also understand that as they eliminated the thread leaves the post. I will use the translator to transcribe into English, though his translations are weak, so publishing in Castilian.
Yesterday morning day 17 (time in Spain) I was thinking about several issues one of them respectable work and effort carried out Project Camelot, suddenly the image of Kerry Cassidy ... (normal to think about it) its image appeared in my mind that sounded at once: "Sam - Samanta and Samanta," the last "a" was almost imperceptible.
Wanting to focus my attention on it to make its image relevant information (Bill Ryan) was filed, followed by another picture of a man is placed before (with force) to his and sounded a word.
The appearance of the man told me it was an Indian, the feeling was of a proud man (in a good way).
Then write the sound is not the word for on this occasion did not see if I heard it:
NIHE or nije
I know the English vowels are pronounced differently and read Castilian (Spanish) the sound is literally, not know the meaning.
The sound was overwhelming and with the accent typical of speech.
I was going to try to reproduce the word to send it but being a woman in my female voice would not sound the same.
Other images I've "seen" during the day and am not relate with you because some of them interpret in another world.
I repeat that you may not have any value, but since yesterday it has increased the need to communicate. Why do not intend to pester if I bothered to apologize.
Greetings to all.



(Señor Bill Ryan, he estado meditando si comunicarle esto, tal vez no tenga ningún valor pero “algo” me incita a comunicárselo. Había pensado mandárselo a la dirección de correo que se proporciona en el blog de Proyecto Camelot ,pero el mes pasado le mandé unas imágenes y el correo me llegó de vuelta a la papelera, además seremos tantos los que les escribimos que quizás cuando lo leyese ya no tuviese importancia; si es que ahora tiene significado.
Como no es una pregunta no espero respuesta, también entendería que como se sale del hilo eliminasen el post. Utilizaré el traductor para transcribirlo al inglés, aunque su traducciones son deficientes, también lo publicaré en castellano.
Ayer día 17 por la mañana (horario en España) me encontraba reflexionando sobre varios temas uno de ellos la respetable labor y esfuerzo que realizaba Proyecto Camelot, de repente la imagen de Kerry Cassidy…( algo normal al pensar en el tema) su imagen apareció en mi mente a la vez que sonaba :”Sam - Samant o Samanta” ,la ultima “a” fue casi imperceptible.
Queriendo centrar mi atención en ello para lograr información de interés su imagen (Bill Ryan) se interpuso, de seguido otra imagen de un hombre se antepuso (con fuerza) a la suya y sonó una palabra.
La apariencia del hombre me indicó que se trataba de un indio, la sensación era de un hombre orgulloso (en el buen sentido).
A continuación escribo el sonido no la palabra pues en esta ocasión no la vi si no que la oí:
NIHE o NIJÈ
Sé que las vocales en inglés se pronuncian y leen diferente al castellano (español) el sonido es literal; no sé el significado.
El sonido era contundente y con el acento típico del habla.
Iba a intentar reproducir el vocablo para enviárselo pero al ser mujer en mi voz femenina no sonaría igual.
Las demás imágenes que he “visto” a lo largo del día y madrugada no las relaciono con usted, ya que algunas de ellas las interpreto de otro mundo.
Le repito que puede que no tenga ningún valor pero desde ayer se ha acrecentado la necesidad de comunicarlo. No pretendo incordiar por eso si he molestado pido disculpas.
Saludos a todos.)

UncleJohn 12-18-2009 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 203020)
There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

I've traveled in Africa a lot. (I spent much of the first 8 years of my life there, and have returned frequently.) Tell those guys that they're going to ascend out of their poverty and disease and hunger. We need to take responsibility for the mess we have all created in this world.

There's a VAST clean-up to do that may take a generation or more. This is where the real learning and growth will take place. We all need to face what we have done.

So: I suspect we've all got our own work cut out for quite a while yet. The Indigos are still coming into the world - they chose their timing perfectly, and won't have missed any party.

Uncle John here: Bill, I was very impressed with your Freedom Central interview. I'm very appreciative of your responding to questions and pray you continue this.

For the present, I don't have any direct questions for you, but I do have several points I would appreciate your response to.

Do humans have the freedom or power or chance to change our world for the better? It seems that from your responses, your answer is yes. Currently, my opinion is no.

I believe that offworlders run the show on the earth. My perspective is that the offworlders accomplish this by use of mind control of every human living.

I've posted many times that it is my firm belief backed up with mountain of evidence that a human's memory and consciousness is not located inside their body. The memory and consciousness is actualized by some unknown and unlocated mechanism. It appears that some collection of offworlders has access privileges in this mechanism.

For ten years, I've pointed out chemtrails to over one thousand random people I've encountered. To my great surprise, less than one percent of those were able to conceptualize what I was pointing out. It was exactly like some one has inserted a line of code in their consciousness mechanism such as this: "If chemtrails are brought to consciousness, ignore it."

If humans don't have to freedom to consider a particular thought, then what freedom do we really have?

How can the majority of every policeman and fireman in New York City know that 9/11 was an inside job and yet not one of them takes any action?

Bill, if you or a loved one got cancer, would you recommend following a MD's advice or would you recommend one of the many proven methods to cure cancer that don't involve cutting, burning or poisoning?

I dream every night and I am convinced that my dreams are not choreographed by my mind. Who has the power to insert these dreams into my mind? How is this accomplished? For what purpose if not for controlling me?

Fredkc 12-18-2009 06:20 PM

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As UncleJohn and I appear to sit on "opposite sides" of the answer, to this (I asked similar stuff here), I am very curious, too.

I think you've stated that "the answer is still within us" fairly well, just the same...

The notion of a "closed loop" scenario dislikes me. To know that to be the case, well... perhaps we could all benefit more from simply taking up Golf, and putting in our time.

Then comes,
"Ah, that's what you're meant to think... that there is hope. That is the carrot and stick to keep you moving peacefully along."
But then you're back to a circular thing with no real resolution. This then becomes another valid argument for Golf.

Perhaps I should re-examine my feelings about the game, but it just doesn't seem that interesting, to me.

If we are meant to be that controlled, and have somehow "slipped our bonds" then it occurs to me that a species that dispassionate, and powerful would simply re-cycle our species, salvaging what biological material needed. We wouldn't even know it happened. Again, circular.

Anyway, I guess this is another vote to hear your thought on this,

Fred

Seashore 12-18-2009 06:43 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 197566)

Please consider the possible link between Jane Burgermeister and Sorcha Faal/Zionist interests as outlined in the following post, which is from the "Sorcha Faal?" thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 196806)

Sorcha Faal was the topic of discussion on Dr A True Ott's "The Story Behind the Story" on December 8, 2009 ... The show's topic: Who the Heck is "Sorcha Faal" aka David Booth -- is this a Tavistock Institute organization ... Booth family trust at the City of London - a Rothschild connection ... a thing to remember to watch out for is no solutions being offered and encouraging engaging in violent acts ... They talked about ... Sorcha Faal and the repetition of the Holocaust theme and playing the anti-Semite card...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 198254)

Sorry, this is nonsense. 'Sorcha Faal' is almost never worth reading or paying any attention to whatsoever. His/her (real ID: David Booth, paid agent) tall tales are wild, unverifiable, and usually invented.



This follow-up post on my part is to note for the record that there was no nonsense posted by myself concerning "Sorcha Faal."

The research that I did and posted on this thread showed that the Sorcha Faal website exists for the purpose of furthering Zionist (which I equate with the New World Order agenda) interests.

AnarChrist 12-18-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnarChrist (Post 201074)
b) if so, his horrible science fiction aside, ...

I want to apologize for this unnecessary and inconsequential little comment. (good call gnosis, on that) My opinion only of course. The question posed of Ron Hubbard still stands however.

OneLove.~

P.E.A.C.E.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 12-18-2009 07:31 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
bill have you or kerry ever conversed with mel febrigas. i like the style of his show he attacks the same topics and guests from a refreshing angle. camelot and veritas are my favourite conduits for information at this time.( i count david wilcock as camelot, as he kinda does to :naughty:).

i agree with you on the subject of "will humanity get a bailout" we took a dump in our own sandpit now its time for US to clean it up.. ive been thinking a bit about this recently and nuclear war(ww3) would seem to be an easy out, as would pole shift(geryl) scenarios..the suffering doestn seem to be long or drawn out enough to catch all the fish in the net. maybe its doesnt work like that and universe says enough is enough and presses the reset button and off we go again..:nono::blowup::insane:


oh i forgot i cant seem to find your recent interview it was on you tube then disappeared .

DoctorWho 12-19-2009 03:28 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah (Post 204185)
bill have you or kerry ever conversed with mel febrigas. i like the style of his show he attacks the same topics and guests from a refreshing angle. camelot and veritas are my favourite conduits for information at this time.( i count david wilcock as camelot, as he kinda does to :naughty:).

i agree with you on the subject of "will humanity get a bailout" we took a dump in our own sandpit now its time for US to clean it up.. ive been thinking a bit about this recently and nuclear war(ww3) would seem to be an easy out, as would pole shift(geryl) scenarios..the suffering doestn seem to be long or drawn out enough to catch all the fish in the net. maybe its doesnt work like that and universe says enough is enough and presses the reset button and off we go again..:nono::blowup::insane:


oh i forgot i cant seem to find your recent interview it was on you tube then disappeared .

Mel mentioned in the Veritas thread that Bill & Kerry will be on the show in a month.
Bill "the Doctor"

Surial 12-19-2009 05:02 AM

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Hello Bill,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Anna Hayes has a very interesting perspective on ET history. Anna has an enormous amount of information.

I believe that you have a very nice positive presence about you and would make a perfect interviewer. Your English accent is nice too. LOL But you listen well and have great patience. It would be an advantage for you to interview to allow the flow of information to come in because Anna is very advanced and talks very very fast. You have the patience to deal with this.

Also do not forget we are all part of these ET races. That is one of the main reasons why they take an interest. We are family.

There are many lost souls out there that want to reunite with loved ones through the ages. With the many Earth changes that are coming it is crucial that we grow and rise with Mother Earth.

I agree with you Bill, that we need to mature as a race and take responsibility.

One of the main reasons why I mentioned that video before is because of the advanced technology of light, color, and sound. This will be the medical practice of the future. Learning to balance and heal the DNA through Chakra systems can be utilized by the study of how to learn these energy frequencies. This is also the key to heal all diseases and extend our lifespan physically.

The Pleiadians have been measuring and tuning the vibration of Earth. This will allow us to interact with them in a higher dimensional vibration For example, you may be able to hear them but not be able to see them. Of course, their purpose is still unknown to me. They could be planning an Exodus. Or they could be planning on visitation.

As we draw closer to the Photon belt this will bring about a great opportunity for us. There are many strands of DNA that will have a potential to be re-activated. So we are living in very interesting times.

And if you do not believe in any of what I have stated above, at least we agree that we have much to learn and hope for a better future. Thanks for your time. Blessings to you and Kerry.

I also wanted to add, Bill, that the fact that you are skeptic on physical ascension would be good in the fact that interviewing Ashayana Deane aka Anna Hayes would be a very healthy spiritual experience for you. And it is also the same philosophy on how Jason and Grant try to debunk Ghost Stories, you know like the show Ghost Hunters. It would make a great contrast and excellent entertainment.

Oh yes! I see that Kerry has taken a great interest in Anna Hayes. Cool Deal. I also noticed that Anna and Drunvalo had a falling out a while back about their teachings. I guess disagreements are very common in the field of belief, mystery, and creation.

Gnosis5 12-19-2009 05:16 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
When I read your post I got very excited realizing that everyone brings in the best of whatever ET group they can associate with.

Even the greys and reptilians, if they don't decide to pack it in and leave for good.

Gnosis

14 Chakras 12-19-2009 05:18 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Gratitude for continuing to fulfill your Divine Plan and mission here Bill and Kerry.

I completely agree, it's up to humanity to raise up their own planet and fix the problems that are here now. We are meant to grow up as a species, and we won't do that if we are dependent on something outside of us to take care of our own world.

I believe the answers are in Self realization. Reality here is created by the collective agreement, the collective consciousness. Currently the most self centered / egotistical people control the collective agreement with their media, governments, religions etc. The collective agreement is the slave consciousness, one of lack and suffering. This is not how things are supposed to be, it is truly the opposite of reality, which is abundance for All Life.

I suggest the solutions lay within us and that what will save planet Earth is not a bunch of ETs coming and fixing our governments or being our new 'galactic government'. I believe the solution is that a critical mass of people raise their consciousness to see through the illusion matrix, to see the reality of the Divinity, the Power, Wisdom and Love that is within them. They surrender to the still small voice within and merge with it, I and my Father are One.

A critical mass of enlightened Beings will raise the entire collective agreement out of the swamp of the ego consciousness, the lack and suffering consciousenss, and into the Co-Creator consciousness, the consciousness of abundance where it becomes clear that All Life is interconnected and at it's higest level: One.

Keep up the great work, may you be totally protected, guided by the Divine and all of the right doors open at the right times as you go through them and continuously become More.

~ Espavo ~

P.S. My opinion: Anna Hayes material = confusing disinfo ;)

Gnosis5 12-19-2009 05:33 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnarChrist (Post 204162)
I want to apologize for this unnecessary and inconsequential little comment. (good call gnosis, on that) My opinion only of course. The question posed of Ron Hubbard still stands however.

OneLove.~

P.E.A.C.E.

An interesting observation re Ron Hubbard and CofS:

If the CofS is being taken over by some sect of the Cabal, if they ever let go of it, like a hand grenade, it could possibly explode in their face. As long as all that tech is properly twisted and diluted and "never improved" by edict, I see a lot of beings trapped who might otherwise realize their power to relieve the whole world of ill-illumined ways of being.

I lived among CofS Scientologists in LA for seven years and I KNOW personally what these beings are capable of doing -- if only they were not trapped in the CofS restrictions and limited applicaton of technologies, both clearing and magical.

Putting that hand grenade convincingly into the hands of the Cabal might have been a very good strategy. Anyone up for some judo? :smoke:

Gnosis5 12-19-2009 06:35 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 14 chakras (Post 204568)
gratitude for continuing to fulfill your divine plan and mission here bill and kerry.

I completely agree, it's up to humanity to raise up their own planet and fix the problems that are here now. We are meant to grow up as a species, and we won't do that if we are dependent on something outside of us to take care of our own world.

I believe the answers are in self realization. Reality here is created by the collective agreement, the collective consciousness. Currently the most self centered / egotistical people control the collective agreement with their media, governments, religions etc. The collective agreement is the slave consciousness, one of lack and suffering. This is not how things are supposed to be, it is truly the opposite of reality, which is abundance for all life.

I suggest the solutions lay within us and that what will save planet earth is not a bunch of ets coming and fixing our governments or being our new 'galactic government'. I believe the solution is that a critical mass of people raise their consciousness to see through the illusion matrix, to see the reality of the divinity, the power, wisdom and love that is within them. They surrender to the still small voice within and merge with it, i and my father are one.

A critical mass of enlightened beings will raise the entire collective agreement out of the swamp of the ego consciousness, the lack and suffering consciousenss, and into the co-creator consciousness, the consciousness of abundance where it becomes clear that all life is interconnected and at it's higest level: One.

Keep up the great work, may you be totally protected, guided by the divine and all of the right doors open at the right times as you go through them and continuously become more.

~ espavo ~

bump

Seashore 12-19-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 197623)

I have looked further through my notes concerning Jane Burgermeister.

Dr Deagle's Nutrimedical Report on September 18, 2009, the 2nd Hour, covered this subject. The guest ... JoAnne Cremer, who was the person who spearheaded a Facebook group in support of Jane ...

The important things that were said are:

1. The legal team Jane claimed to have turned out to be one person who is not an attorney.
2. The person accepted $6000 from Elizabeth Book for whatever it was he filed.

4. Jane issued 5 or 6 emails to Joanne regarding the use of "gorilla warfare."

6. Joanne was asked to solicit money from Facebook group members, which had become international and numbered 7,000 people.
7. After Joanne realized she had to terminate her support for Jane and announced this, Jane accused her of association with mass murderers, pedophiles, satanists, etc.

This information appears between 5:40 - 35:40. Again, the correct archive is September 18, 2009, 2nd Hour:

http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=nutrimedical

The above testimony has not yet been addressed.

Quantum 12-19-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 203733)
It is almost as if there is some morphic field that is being continuously "put there" not by the Cabal, but by the very populace itself. I don't think we are spiritually ready for the floodgates of unbounded materialism to open up, amd that might be the why of the self-inflicted blindness.

gnosis

If the morphic field is a product of the beliefs of the populace, then it can be modified by changing those beliefs. It need be only a small shift to start the snowball rolling... and I feel this is happening. Look at how many ivory towers are crumbling regularly these days. Banking, politics, corporations, religion, media and even... science. They are all being exposed in varying degrees so even the most indoctrinated of the sheep are starting to question the status quo. Even materialism is beginning to show it's empty colors.

When people are given even a glimpse of what's possible, they can potentially make different choices beyond what's previously been set in their paradigm.

The introduction of free energy is only the beginning of a new way of being in a society. This first step leads to things way larger than a self charging electric car or no utility bill. We typically look narrowly at the problems it solves previously created with our old thinking. Instead, it opens the door to a new and different age of living. An age of abundance does not equate to a repeat cycle of consumerism and materialism.

Peace.

yellowcosmicseed 12-19-2009 05:58 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hello bill. I appreciate your work at camelot to the highest extent. I cannot fully explain how much you have helped open my eyes.

I got a question: Because you don't believe in 4D 'ascension' then why was it that one day on camelot it wa sposted that The LAw of One/Ra Material is one of the best and most accurate channelings of all time? Does not the Law Of One state that we are entering into 4D at this moment? Is it not a reliable source?

HENNA 12-19-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
You are representing the change that I see as our future and the holographic society structure that Collier is talking about, you are helping to removing limiting beliefs, memes, and self defeating behaviors of our society and for FREE, which is the key to sharing knowledge. Thank you for seeing this not as a money making opportunity, but as your role in awakening mankind!
Thank you so much for hours and hours of awesome video! You ROCK!

Okay my question, is there anyplace on the web that Andrew Basiago has spoken “in person” not just a recorded interview (just his voice)??. There are many people that are doubting him and now also David Wilcock, because his voice and speaking style, voice in fluctuation etc. is very close to David’s. I know you have had long conversations with him.


Do you agree with his goal?: Quote: “The mission of MARS is to lead the international effort to research, disclose, and educate the public about life on Mars and lobby for the enactment of a treaty under the UN to protect Mars from visitation, exploration, habitation, and colonization by human beings from Earth.”

Brinty 12-19-2009 08:58 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Bill, if you and Kerry ever do get to visit New Zealand, you might like to try setting up an interview with Bruce Cathie. He was an airline pilot and a UFO researcher who started writing in the '60s.

Cathie wrote 'Harmonic 33' in 1968, a book that broke new ground with its theory of the power grid that governs a whole array of extraordinary and hitherto unrelated phenomena. His further researches have convinced him that at least a portion of his discovery was already known to - and being exploited by - the scientists of certain governments. In 'Harmonic 695' he and co-author Peter Temm prove their case.

You can check out some of the other books he has written at this site . . . http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...sts=t&x=68&y=3

Also, check his website http://www.antigravitymovie.com/pages/cathie.htm

Seashore 12-19-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

We ask you to ... if necessary, to actively intervene if there are signs that FEMA and Homeland Security units following orders from the UN/WHO are misusing these combined military exercises to begin mass vaccinations and detentions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 201969)

Hmmmm. Maybe this is a problem...


Something I haven't paused to ask before: Why would an Austrian journalist feel it appropriate to advise Americans to take such an action as this in their country?

Daft Ada 12-20-2009 12:26 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi Bill mate.
1:- Do you know if there is any truth that there was supposed to have been a meeting between World Leaders and the ET's on Johnston Island in early November this year?

2:- Have you heard anything to back up what is being said on Dr M Salla's site about a one mile wide pyramid space craft hovering over the Cremelin for two hours after it had shot down the Russians nuke missile test?

I soooooo hope that is true and that the ET's are taking steps to intervine and stop all these idiots from making or using nukes.

3:- Are you going to put the latest radio show on your site please.

Big hug for Kerry.

IRISH-MYSTIC 12-20-2009 12:39 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Hi there,

just wondering whether you have read Jacques Vallee's books ... and what you think of him as regards his credibility and research credentials?

Thanks for all you work ... much love from S

Bloodoftheberry 12-20-2009 02:42 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 202882)

An interesting snippet: Earlier I was asked a question about Hidden Hand's information, and I replied that we'd been contacted by someone who told us that HH's information was 90% accurate but deliberately contained 10% falsehoods.
B

Hi Bill,

Did this person tell you which specific details of the Hidden Hand discourse were incorrect?

qbeac 12-20-2009 04:30 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Context and recent news:

Michael Salla says:
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honol...fe-is-imminent
(Oct-21-2009) An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent (…)

The Nobel Peace Prize was an important step in giving global legitimacy to President Obama in making an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Obama is therefore poised to play a prominent role in the increased global governance that will be necessary after an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement (…)

If extraterrestrial disclosure does occur at the end of 2009 or early 2010, President Obama will lead an unprecedented effort to promote global governance through the United Nations… etc.
Benjamin Fulford says:
http://benjaminfulford.net/
(Dec-16-2009) The Chinese are now allied with the global warming fraud faction in an attempt to establish a world dictatorship. The Black Dragon Society will not allow this to happen… etc.
Lord Christopher Monckton says:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/monckton...nment-tax.html
(Dec-9-2009) Lord Monckton warns that the secretive draft version of the Copenhagen climate change treaty (…) they are desperately trying to conceal from everybody here the magnitude of what they’re attempting to do – they really are attempting to set up a world government” (..) [to obtain a] “further centralization of power into global hands”
Prison Planet (PJ Watson) says:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-fo...d-tantrum.html
(Dec-18- 2009) Obama was forced to address climate skepticism (…) today in Copenhagen, desperately claiming that man-made climate change was “not fiction [but science],” (…) as he attempts to ram through a huge transfer of wealth to the new world order. (…)
---------------------------------

Questions to Bill:
1) Many people think that the UN and the Nobel Prize are controlled by the elite, who uses them to give prestige to persons who will promote the elite’s agenda (Ex: World Government, NWO dictatorship), so:

Will the “Obama ET disclosure” (if it happens) be the “positive” ETs disclosure or the “negative” ETs disclosure (Note: “negative” ETs pretending to be “positive” ETs)?

2) In case a “battle” behind the scenes is going on between “positive” and “negative” ETs and humans:

Are those two factions perhaps trying to be the first one to announce “their own” ET disclosure so that they can get a time advantage over the other side in order to be able to develop their own agendas (positive or negative)?

3) Obama seems to be defending the elite’s agenda in many issues: World Government (NWO), swine flu vaccination, 911 official version (and not an inside job), manmade Climate Change (and not Climate-Gate), etc., so:

Is Obama trying to be the leader of ET disclosure (the fake disclosure) as a pretext to push for a “World Government” (the elite’s New World Order)?

So, which side does Obama work for, the positive ETs or the negative ETs (Blue Beam, either in its malign or benign version)?

4) Dr. Greer said in the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit (25-jul-09) that a mistake he made with Bill Clinton was that he gave Clinton too much time (6 years) to disclose the ET issue, and that in order to avoid repeating that mistake, Dr. Greer was going to give Obama “less than a year” to announce the ET disclosure.

So, which side does Dr. Greer work for, the positive ETs or the negative ETs (Blue Beam)?

5) Bill, is David Wilcock (and the rest of your high level contacts) aware of the above: That there could be “two possible disclosures scenarios”: positive ETs and negative ETs (pretending to be positive ETs)?

And do they know who may be working for each faction (Ex: Obama, Greer, The Black Dragon Society, etc.)?
---------------------------------

Bill, what I mean is that everybody (and especially high level insiders) should be VERY alert, because “ET disclosure” by itself does not necessarily mean the real disclosure of “positive ETs”, since the negative ETs could try to perform a fake disclosure (Blue Beam) disguising themselves as positive ETs.

I imagine high level insiders already know this, but just in case, could you please tell them? Thanks a lot!!!

---------------------------------

These questions boil down to this:
- What is the real hidden power structure of the world (not the visible fake one: politicians in TV, etc.)? Who are really ruling the world?

- Is there any chance that the dark rulers will be neutralized by the good rulers?

- If so, is there any chance that the “current dark rulers” will be replaced by “good rulers” and not by “another set of dark rulers”?
Bill, thanks for your time and patience.

YinYangMind 12-20-2009 05:34 AM

Re: Bill Ryan's thread
 
Bill,

I hope you've seen the comments and activity on the thread ref Clif High's response to your post. If you haven't, might I suggest you give it a few minutes!

The latest post by Seburo has some very interesting information and links regarding Deagle that you should review! This guy's history and the obvious sense from many of us that he's a bad seed should be important to you and Kerry as you move forward with him and presenting the interview and information you two have on PC.

Please understand that as a follower of PC since inception, I have great admiration for the work you guys have done. However, the recent incidents with some of your 'whistleblowers' and interviewees together with the rather unprofessional conduct you've personally displayed with Clif High are starting to give me (and obviously others here) pause with additional skepticism with your work & intentions. Would prefer not to feel that way and continue to support PC. This can only be changed by you and how you address this and other issues that have become large question marks on your past, present and future work. Don't damage what you guys have done so far by not honoring the opportunity to balance the karmic opportunity before you.

Balance, Peace & Harmony,

YinYangMind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seburo (Post 204670)
Dr. Bill Deagle puts my ******** meter in the red zone, yes some of his stories may corroborate with others, and yes he may hold the title of "Dr.", but the many of his claims are so far out very few can be scientifically validated. The oddest thing about Dr. Deagle is that he's coincidentally had a part in nearly all major conspiracies for the last 30+ years; this understanding alone sets off a ginormous red flag. Now I'm not saying everything word out of Deagles mouth is a lie, but Clif's suspicion on Deagle's credibility is well warranted.

A few links I found through Google regarding Bill Deagle's lack of credibility:
http://www.christianissues.com/updates.html - Post Dated 10/9/09
http://www.ripoffreport.com/suppleme...agle-2e2e8.htm
http://swallowingthecamel.blogspot.c.../02/dr_27.html
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/billdeagle.html

This public record shows a clear revocation of Deagle's medical license "as recommended by Administrative Law Judge" from the state of Colorado:
https://www.doradls.state.co.us/alis...kwNTAz&t_o_p=0


A thought provoking thread making swiss cheese out of Mr. Deagles "credentials":
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread434552/pg1

EDIT:
On the other hand Deagle does have a few filed patents, one specifically under Dynatens Research Corporation which gives some credibility to his claims.
http://www.google.com/patents?q=Will...Search+Patents
http://www.patentstorm.us/search.htm....x=0&s.y=0&s=s - I double checked =)

Though I can't find Mr. Deagle as a registered physician in all of Canada which strikes me as odd (I went through all the records of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of each province.)


...waits for the Medical Board of California physician license lookup to stop doing maintenance... Update: No Record Found.
http://www.medbd.ca.gov/lookup.html

Edit2: Nutrimedical is registered to a house.... 1995 Quail View Drive, Vista, CA‎
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8...h&z=19&iwloc=A


Please note that all information gathered has been through the use of the Google search engine and is in no way, shape, or form divulging any information on Dr. William Deagle that isn't already in public access.

----
Regards,
SeburoX43 - http://www.youtube.com/user/SeburoX43



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